how the &^%$^& do I avoid this situation? or can't i? - Page 2

45suited · #11 08-02-2005, 04:48 AM

I have no problem folding AK from the SB pre-flop in this situation.

I think that calling is an option, as is pushing pre-flop actually. Not mini-reraising, knowing that he will call (larger pot) and then you have to play the hand OOP.

Actually, I'm folding pre-flop. Problem solved. There's really no need to get involved here. Call me weak-tight, I don't care.

curtains · #12 08-02-2005, 04:50 AM

I fold sometimes with AKo but I'm not sure exactly where MP+2 is. How many off the button is that?

45suited · #13 08-02-2005, 04:56 AM

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Yeah, I don't really know, but I hear what you're getting at. Obviously the later position that the raise is coming from, the more likely that I'd play the hand.

But I think in general, on level 1, there is not enough consideration given to just mucking in spots like this. Sometimes people really do act like they HAVE TO play this hand and spew a ton of chips.

dumb ox · #14 08-02-2005, 05:14 AM

The raiser was right before the cutoff.

tigerite · #15 08-02-2005, 05:17 AM

I would just call and see a flop. Min-raise achieves around about nothing here, and the pot isn't big enough to push in my opinion. Once you got to the flop, you shouldn't have bet the pot, it's not necessary

dumb ox · #16 08-02-2005, 05:22 AM

It's late, and I've been drinking, but I think I see that the raise was bad. Though it does get more money in the pot when I likely have the best hand, it won't get him to fold, and the bigger pot makes it more difficult to play postflop, as I don't have that many chips to work with. Your replies have been a big help; thanks.

skierdude1000 · #17 08-02-2005, 05:32 AM

I'd make it like 300 to go and bet at flop... pretty much what you did but more in preflop

tigerite · #18 08-02-2005, 05:37 AM

So you'd risk half your stack preflop, then pretty much put the rest in when you don't hit? That's ludicrous.

Wes ManTooth · #19 08-02-2005, 09:11 AM

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I fold sometimes with AKo but I'm not sure exactly where MP+2 is. How many off the button is that?

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You would fold this preflop? being in the SB and being out of position on the flop but still having the option of calling only 60 more you wouldn't?