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Old 12-02-2005, 06:16 PM
Guruman Guruman is offline
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Default Re: Answer me this... at 1/2 - 3/6 6-max...

Button is obviously a good player who thiks you are a fish because you open limped.

There are really two types of fish here:

Fish A will check and hope that you check behind, then fold when you bet because its obvious that you have a Q or K. His mind does not work in terms of check/fold. It just checks, and then decides to fold on the spur of the moment.

Fish A probably folds the turn almost every time here. He'll only continue if you've pushed him off of several hands in a row lately and won without showing down.


Fish B won't bother to read your hand and would have shown down with ace high anyway. He hates to see a pot won uncontested.

Fish B probably calls to the river almost every time here. He'll only start folding after you show down winners several times in a row. Even then he'll have a hard time laying down top pair. If you show down winners that are less than top pair a few times (like 99 here), then he'll call you down even more tenaciously and probably start bluff raising to try to throw you off.
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Old 12-02-2005, 06:16 PM
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Default Re: Answer me this... at 1/2 - 3/6 6-max...

Close to never, and that is probably the "correct" play.
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Old 12-02-2005, 06:21 PM
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I don't know. Button is tight. Sure, I have a pair and the A. But depending on how I feel, I bet I fold this about 25% of the time.

I mean, I put button squarely on AK here most of the time.
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Old 12-02-2005, 07:00 PM
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Default Re: Answer me this... at 1/2 - 3/6 6-max...

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I don't know. Button is tight. Sure, I have a pair and the A. But depending on how I feel, I bet I fold this about 25% of the time.

I mean, I put button squarely on AK here most of the time.

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From the OP - "Button is playing the role of one of us"

If I was button, my hand range here is huge, and includes a lot of hands that A7o is currently beating.

Also, in the excercise, we are assuming we are a typical unknown who would limp A7o UTG. These players do not know what a bet-fold is. They know what a check-call is, which coincidentally would happen to be pretty close to correct against a player like me on the turn.
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Old 12-02-2005, 06:22 PM
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Default Re: Answer me this... at 1/2 - 3/6 6-max...

If I was the unknown in this hand I would fold pre-flop at 1/2, 2/4 and 3/6.

edit: Oops, misread the question.

"I" would probably c/c because "I" have a pair.
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Old 12-02-2005, 06:26 PM
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I think he's calling pretty much always.
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Old 12-02-2005, 06:28 PM
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Pretty much never.
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Old 12-02-2005, 06:32 PM
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Default Re: Answer me this... at 1/2 - 3/6 6-max...

What Miles is asking (I think) is how much an unknown will fold here. Not what we would do.
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Old 12-02-2005, 09:55 PM
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I fold uhhhh never b/c I have a pair plus an over. If I do any folding it will be on the river

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Old 12-02-2005, 09:57 PM
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Default Re: Answer me this... at 1/2 - 3/6 6-max...

He'll call often, because he limped A7o, then called the flop.

He wants to spike his A7 and lose to our AK where he'll donk bet as he hasnt established the "Check raise" line yet.
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