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Old 12-05-2005, 12:14 AM
Buckmulligan Buckmulligan is offline
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buck: they would not form a triangle. they would form a bell curve.



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the bell looks like a triangle though.
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Old 12-05-2005, 12:15 AM
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It's more of a statistics problem than a calc problem.

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Why would the mean value theorem not be applicable just because the data points come from the "real world?"
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Old 12-05-2005, 12:16 AM
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ok i guess. i think of the bell curve more as an upside down saggy breast.
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Old 12-05-2005, 12:19 AM
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I think it's better to look at with bell curves because it's easier to visualize, that's all.
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Old 12-05-2005, 12:31 AM
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ok i guess. i think of the bell curve more as an upside down saggy breast.

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Please, don't give me a rubbery one of the bell curve.
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Old 12-05-2005, 12:32 AM
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If I win 6BB/100, lose 3BB/100, win 6BB, lose 3BB and do this for ever.
My winrate is 3BB/100.

At what point along my graph would I ever show +3BB/100?
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Old 12-05-2005, 12:34 AM
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Without bothering to really go at it, I think it won't. It'll converge to 3.0 but not hit it.

Win rate isn't a continuous function so technically the MVT doesn't apply.
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Old 12-05-2005, 12:35 AM
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Default Re: Mean Value Theorem Question

because poker winrates are stepwise functions, yes, the theorem does not technically apply. the theorem applies to continuous functions only. however if we were to apply a best-fit curve to the winrate, you would at some point show a +3 bb/100 winrate.
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Old 12-05-2005, 12:36 AM
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Hell it'd show a +3 winrate between every hand [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 12-05-2005, 12:38 AM
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okay let's nitpick. it would show +3 bb/100 between every other hand.
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