RAKEBACK GOING...RAKE WAR TO START???

[lacky]

lori, it's all up to them. It's their tables. They could bar all skilled long term winners tomarrow (like has happened to card counters) and we couldn't do a thing.

scary thought actually

Steve

[Shoe]

IF they crack down on the rakeback affiliates, it will be to increase THEIR profits, not to share with the players.

[Benjamin]

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"They need to make it clear that you can only have one account and if you want an account at a different skin then you must first close your existing account and wait to open a new account elsewhere."

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Company reserves the right to run and utilize a shared table, etc ...

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The words "sole discretion" means it's up to them, ...

Lori

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Hi Lorinda,

I've browsed the TOS for Party, and I never saw it explicitly stated that there is a rule: 1 person may only have 1 account on the Party network. Is that explicitly stated anywhere? (I know I should go dig for myself, but figured you would know the answer.) There is the registry check (and possibly other software checks) that somewhat prevents it, but is there an explicit prohibition?

Another question for anyone in the know: Does the Party skins' affiliate agreement(s) also clearly prohibit rakeback? Or is that just Party?

And, finally, in a previous post you quoted from the affiliate agreement: "offers to share the Affiliate Fee directly or indirectly with Players" as generating Fraud Traffic. Chris claimed that only prohibits advertising of rakeback, but this phrase would seem to apply to private message offers as well, unenforceable though that may be. Yes?

Thanks for any responses,
Benjamin

[lorinda]

If Soleo who bumped this wants to know the answer, I suggest he ask himself in future.

Does the Party skins' affiliate agreement(s) also clearly prohibit rakeback? Or is that just Party?

The one I've been quoting is PokerNOW.

Chris claimed that only prohibits advertising of rakeback, but this phrase would seem to apply to private message offers as well, unenforceable though that may be. Yes?


Personally I believe you can read that phrase any way you want because of the weird context in which it is written.

and I never saw it explicitly stated that there is a rule: 1 person may only have 1 account on the Party network.


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In such event, you agree that you may be pooled into these common game/tables, at Company's sole discretion, and that to the extent that you breach the terms and conditions of one site or brand, Company may have you blocked, in part or full, from the entire system so that you may not play through any site or brand. Further your play patterns, personal data, depositing limits and history may be calculated and shared across the system to counter fraud, over-depositing and other matters, as Company shall decide in its sole discretion

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Seems to say that you can play more than one unless they don't want you to.

Lori

[Soleo]

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If Soleo who bumped this wants to know the answer, I suggest he ask himself in future.

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LOL, no I posted message but then decided that he asked you and so you must reply.
I wrote and deleted that Eurobet has clear prohibition against rakeback in their Affiliate Terms: "Eurobet does not allow revenue sharing deals between players and affiliates". This has been sent personally to each affiliate as additional points of agreement.

[lorinda]

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Well.... you can see how it looked.

Thanks.

Lori

[Benjamin]

Thanks, Lorinda

I appreciate your comments. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Benjamin