Motor City Casino Rake Tricks

Right, I only play NL, so Justin would know better about the rake for limit, which sounds pretty crazy if you ask me. I believe the other Detroit casino to offer poker has a similar structure for NL games and Windsor does too. However, the games are juicy with a lot of loose players that will pay off big hands so you can more than make up for the time charge. The only thing that sucks is the max buy-ins. Makes it difficult to play deep stack until you bust someone. I may try limit, but I don't know if I want to try it at such a disadvantage, however, Justin is talking me into it.

[AKQJ10]

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No at Foxwoods they manage to get hundreds of people to play the worst structure NLH game I've ever seen in my life.

$1-$2 Blinds
$100 Maximum buy-in
$5 per player time charge per half hour.

So the house takes one full buy-in off of the table every hour!

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I agree that Foxwoods' baby NL rake is awful, but I don't see that $6 per half in a $50-200 buyin game is any better. A little better in buyin terms, maybe, but you have more rake to beat. Granted, I typically buy in short anyway when I play NLHE, so I'm not too interested in how it compares to the max buyin.

[2+2 wannabe]

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No at Foxwoods they manage to get hundreds of people to play the worst structure NLH game I've ever seen in my life.

$1-$2 Blinds
$100 Maximum buy-in
$5 per player time charge per half hour.

So the house takes one full buy-in off of the table every hour!

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what's standard NL rake?

[AKQJ10]

I don't know that "standard" exists, but for comparison Atlantic City's (or at least the Borgata's) 10% to $4 in the small NL games seems pretty typical.

Borgata actually experimented when they first started spreading NL. It was 10% to $4, then they switched to $5 per half time charge then went back to 10% to $4 rake. I think that the rake is fair. The time isn't that bad (that was NYC club standard) But the max buy ins in both cases are $250 to $500 depending on where. The $5 time charge only becomes insane with a $100 max buy. If the same group plays for a few hours all of the money disappears.

For low-limit rake games I think 10% to $4 is fair (AC standard up to 6-12, 10-20 and up is time). $6 max is definitely a lot.

[magoo]

Perhaps this will really get your shorts in a knot. I recently played five hours of 10/20 Holdem at Motor City. I asked twice if the game was a "bad beat" game. Everyone said it was a bad beat game. In five hours I never saw a single dollar taken out for the bad beat. The game was raked 10% to max. $6.00. That occurred within the last ten days. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Spook]

The list may be from phone ins, who have an hour to get there.

[JJNJustin]

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Now you've lost me. The tables are shorthanded but there is a list?

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Yes, if they have phone-ins waiting on the list, they wont break any of the tables. For example, if they have three 6-handed games with a few phone-ins, they will hesitate to break the third game because of the phone-ins. Or for example, if they have 5 total seats open, 6 players on the third game, and a few call-ins, they wont break the table. If the players ask to break the table, they sometimes say no, because of the call-ins.
If they have two tables, with two seats open on the main game and 4 players on the short and a few on the list, they let the short game go-on until one of the call-ins comes in. If the players ask to break, they say "Lets give the call-ins another 1/2 hour, " before we break the game.

Another thing they do is use a 7-stud table for a hold'em game. Now when you lose a player or two the game is short.
I hate playing hold 'em on an 8 player max table with their rake.

With their rake, I would prefer a 12 handed game.

-J

[otter]

I haven't seen the stud tables opened the last 5 times I've been there. I was there last weekend and all the tables were open except for those

[otter]

Paying $16/hour fulltime for a year is a "rake" of over $33,000/year. Even if you're a damn good player playing w/ some of the worst that's a HUGE chunk being taken out of your pocket. With online play it's tough to justify driving down to MC unless I just need to get out. I'd rather pay a smaller rake and also get 25-30% of my rake back.