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Old 12-14-2005, 10:45 PM
Roswell Roswell is offline
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Default Re: 2346 in SB

this hand happened last night in the $60 mix game at the bike. very loose game. the SB was 2/3 of the big blind. three people limped. i decided to just complete because

1)out of position with a drawing hand against people who will never fold
2)need a 7 or an 8 and it's likely that some are dead
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Old 12-15-2005, 12:48 AM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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Default Re: 2346 in SB

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1)out of position with a drawing hand against people who will never fold

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I got a kick out of this since the name of hte game is TRIPLE DRAW.

anyways, i like a raise here, though honestly i wouldn't really care if you didn't.
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Old 12-15-2005, 07:18 AM
MarkGritter MarkGritter is offline
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2)need a 7 or an 8 and it's likely that some are dead

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My earlier post in response to this seems to have been eaten by the Internet Monster.

It is almost always the case that some of the cards you need are dead. Against a _pat hand_, sure, it's quite likely that an 8, a 7, or both are dead. But against random drawing hands I'm not convinced that 7s and 8s are any deader than, say, 5s and 6s.

If you held 7432 you won't worry about 8s, 5s, and 6s being dead.

Maybe I'll work this out on a spreasheet tomorrow and see what reasonable (or unreasonable, they are limpers after all) starting hand selection does to the supply of 7s and 8s.

ETA: Oh, and what makes you think that catching a 9 won't win it for you? 96432 is not all that much worse than a rough 8. Even if you're only a 50% favorite on the last draw you are putting in 25% of the money assuming they chase you all the way.
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