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Old 12-30-2005, 08:25 PM
Womble Womble is offline
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Default QQ hand, value bet river?

5th hand at the table, UTG with QQ

I raise, UTG+1 3bets, BB calls, I cap, both call

Flop 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]j [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
BB checks, I bet, both call

Turn 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
BB checks, I bet, both call

River 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
I check [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img], UTG+1 bets, BB calls, I call

The 4 straight put me off betting, a 4 is unlikely but a 9 could be possible from the BB.

Also, what would my line be for AKo in this situation on the turn. My preflop and flop play would be the same.
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Old 12-30-2005, 08:33 PM
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Default Re: QQ hand, value bet river?

Stats or reads on villians ?
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Old 12-30-2005, 08:41 PM
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Default Re: QQ hand, value bet river?

I think this is a bet and fold to a raise situation.
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Old 12-31-2005, 03:20 AM
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Default Re: QQ hand, value bet river?

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I think this is a bet and fold to a raise situation.

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I like this line. Checking gives your opponents the choice to check behind when they are beaten, and bet when they have the straight. However they are both unlikely to raise you without a hand that beats yours, so it is safe to fold if either raises.

As for AK, I'd bet the turn again, and check the river. Calling would be read dependent in some situations, but I can't see an overcall being profitable so I'd recommend folding the river if you'd held AK.
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Old 12-31-2005, 07:44 AM
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Default Re: QQ hand, value bet river?

Reads on anyone (i know 5th hand but stats from previous session?) or at least the stakes you are playing at? I would bet this and fold to a raise (might consider a call if UTG raises and BB folds). They are obviously scared of the 4 str8 too. I would expect that you will be called by more hands you beat then hands that will bet into you after you check that you still beat.
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