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#11
12-20-2005, 05:21 PM
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Re: Pokerstars Micro-Limit Hand Question [Weak Draws facing Bets]
Fold.
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#12
12-20-2005, 06:08 PM
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Re: Pokerstars Micro-Limit Hand Question [Weak Draws facing Bets]
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As it stands they all had no part of the flush or straight draws. I folded "knowing" that someone had an Ace and "feeling" someone had a better flush draw. [/ QUOTE ] Jack, this is a case where what was in your opponents' hands had no bearing on your action. The facts: 1. you weren't going to win with 7-high; 2. you had 11 outs to a straight or flush, but they needed to be discounted some amount; 3. when the action got to you on the turn you were being offered 3:1 from the pot. Say you discounted your outs by 35%, so you needed 6-ish:1 from the pot to call...that means you'd need to be pretty sure you could make up 9BB on the river (assuming the turn wasn't capped) in order to allow yourself to make the call. That ain't happening. So, since you can't win unimproved, and you aren't getting the odds to call, it's a good fold. Oh, and buddy-list all 3 of these a-holes. The only one who played it decently was UTG+1, and even he should have bet the flop.
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#13
12-20-2005, 06:13 PM
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Re: Pokerstars Micro-Limit Hand Question [Weak Draws facing Bets]
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[ QUOTE ] I'm looking for thoughts on what my best action [on a consistent basis]might be in this spot [/ QUOTE ] Fold this holding pf with only 3 in. Consistently. [/ QUOTE ] I think this should be a pretty standard limp on the button, even after 2 limpers. \
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#14
12-20-2005, 06:49 PM
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Re: Pokerstars Micro-Limit Hand Question [Weak Draws facing Bets]
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[ QUOTE ] I'm looking for thoughts on what my best action [on a consistent basis]might be in this spot [/ QUOTE ] Fold this holding pf with only 3 in. Consistently. [/ QUOTE ] Would you fold pocket 2's in this situation?
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#15
12-20-2005, 06:59 PM
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Re: Pokerstars Micro-Limit Hand Question [Weak Draws facing Bets]
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'm looking for thoughts on what my best action [on a consistent basis]might be in this spot [/ QUOTE ] Fold this holding pf with only 3 in. Consistently. [/ QUOTE ] Would you fold pocket 2's in this situation? [/ QUOTE ] Pocket 2's is not 75s. It's not even on the same level.
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#16
12-20-2005, 07:58 PM
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Re: Pokerstars Micro-Limit Hand Question [Weak Draws facing Bets]
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'm looking for thoughts on what my best action [on a consistent basis]might be in this spot [/ QUOTE ] Fold this holding pf with only 3 in. Consistently. [/ QUOTE ] Would you fold pocket 2's in this situation? [/ QUOTE ] Pocket 2's is not 75s. It's not even on the same level. [/ QUOTE ] What does poker stove say about this?
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#17
12-20-2005, 08:02 PM
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Re: Pokerstars Micro-Limit Hand Question [Weak Draws facing Bets]
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'm looking for thoughts on what my best action [on a consistent basis]might be in this spot [/ QUOTE ] Fold this holding pf with only 3 in. Consistently. [/ QUOTE ] Would you fold pocket 2's in this situation? [/ QUOTE ] Pocket 2's is not 75s. It's not even on the same level. [/ QUOTE ] http://www.gocee.com/poker/HE_Val_Sort.htm The results may shcok you!
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#19
12-20-2005, 08:14 PM
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Re: Pokerstars Micro-Limit Hand Question [Weak Draws facing Bets]
That's not a valid comparison. It features more opponents and it's based on going to showdown with all people in the pot.
Liming this low one gap suited connector is a marginal move at best, especially with just 2 limpers in front. It also does not take into account that sometimes you can lose big with these hands when facing a bigger straight of flush. Playing 22 is a lot easier; just hit or fold. And it is easier to spot hands that could be beating you like a flush (and you will get outs for a full house when that happends).
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#20
12-21-2005, 01:16 AM
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Re: Pokerstars Micro-Limit Hand Question [Weak Draws facing Bets]
Grunch.
I bet the flop. You may fold a few overs, and you may win the pot with a turn bet, or else it'll be checked to you on the turn and you can check it through. With this turn though, after I bet the flop, I'd just check it through. The only way you'd have a chance to win is the flush, or straight at that point. Someone with the Ace may be check-raising. The way you played it, I just fold on the turn. The pot is miniscule. With that much action, there is no guarantee your 7-high flush will be good anyway. Your straight should be, I would guess. You can't assume you have any of your pair outs. But, let's say you cold-call 3 and nobody caps and everyone stays in. The 3BB pot would grow to 12BB. You'd be facing putting in 3BB to win 12BB. That's barely 4:1. Good enough, assuming the flush is good and the gutshot is good, but the implied odds may make this a call, because you aren't spending ANY on the river if the flush doesn't come in. My knee-jerk reaction is to fold when the pot is 3BB on the turn and it goes bet, raise, 3-bet, but I could see capping, or calling 3 if you thought everyone was coming along. It's close, because you may not have the best flush, and if the board pairs on the end, you may be up against an Ace-rag house. I think the gutshot outs are pretty clean though. At the very least for a chop.
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