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Old 12-16-2005, 07:26 AM
Erik779 Erik779 is offline
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Default Raised on turn

The Button is a tight aggressive player. He plays well.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, MP calls, Button calls.

Flop: (13.00 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls, Button calls.

Turn: (8.00 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls, MP folds.

River: (13.00 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15.00 BB.


When he raises a preflop capper and another player on the turn I wasnt sure my hand was good.

Can I fold this turn ?

I guess I should have dropped it when the second Jack hit on the river
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Old 12-16-2005, 07:33 AM
ipp147 ipp147 is offline
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Default Re: Raised on turn

Reading through the hand I think his turn raise is most likely AA/KK.

There is a small chance that he is semi bluffing the turn with AK diamonds.

I think you can fold that river though although most people will tell you "big pot, 1 bet, call"
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Old 12-16-2005, 08:09 AM
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Default Re: Raised on turn

[ QUOTE ]
Reading through the hand I think his turn raise is most likely AA/KK.

There is a small chance that he is semi bluffing the turn with AK diamonds.

I think you can fold that river though although most people will tell you "big pot, 1 bet, call"

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If OP's read is on he's never semi bluffing AK[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] there in a protected pot that large when it's obvious Hero has a big hand.

I'd call the river hoping to see A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or TT, or even the case QQ, though I wonder how often he'd actually value bet A9 or TT, if he's real good and you know he wouldn't bet these then maybe it is a fold.
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Old 12-16-2005, 08:39 AM
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Default Re: Raised on turn

You can't fold the turn because he can play AJ this way.

The river sucks but I'm still calling getting 14:1.
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Old 12-16-2005, 10:05 AM
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Default Re: Raised on turn

On the River, I like bet/fold more than check/call.

You might steal the pot from KK or AA, and occassionally from some other better hand like two pair or a set lower than Jacks. That would be a real coup. If you bet the river, your opponents have to fear you have a Jack and they will rarely raise without something that can match or beat that. I don't think you have to worry about getting bluff raised out of this hand if you bet the River.
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