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Old 11-01-2005, 02:24 AM
TwoNiner TwoNiner is offline
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Default Re: Houston Rockets are going to the finals, you can put money on it.

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I'd put them at 60% to make the playoffs.

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Clarkmeister, just because I'm from Houston as the above poster pointed, and still riding high from the Astros season, I will give you a huge EV bet and lay 3-1 the Rockets make the playoffs. Something fun for the long boring NBA season.

To the guy calling for 5th in the West, I see them as second in the West if T-Mac is healthy, he is bitching about some real bad tendinitis in his knees right now. If he misses significant time I see them sitting in at 4th. I go Spurs-(Rockets)-Mavs-Nugs if everyone is healthy. Alston and Derek Anderson finally give us players that can throw an entry pass, and I think that will be a huge improvement that flies under the radar. Whether Yao catches half of them is another matter. Stromile blocking some shots and keeping people off Yao will help also.
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Old 11-01-2005, 02:31 AM
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Default Re: Houston Rockets are going to the finals, you can put money on it.

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I'd put them at 60% to make the playoffs.

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Clarkmeister, just because I'm from Houston as the above poster pointed, and still riding high from the Astros season, I will give you a huge EV bet and lay 3-1 the Rockets make the playoffs. Something fun for the long boring NBA season.

To the guy calling for 5th in the West, I see them as second in the West if T-Mac is healthy, he is bitching about some real bad tendinitis in his knees right now. If he misses significant time I see them sitting in at 4th. I go Spurs-(Rockets)-Mavs-Nugs if everyone is healthy. Alston and Derek Anderson finally give us players that can throw an entry pass, and I think that will be a huge improvement that flies under the radar. Whether Yao catches half of them is another matter. Stromile blocking some shots and keeping people off Yao will help also.

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I just bet the Under 53.5. I had no idea it was that high. Thanks for the offer, I'll just stick with the under bet. Good luck.
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Old 11-01-2005, 02:39 AM
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Default Re: Houston Rockets are going to the finals, you can put money on it.

Yeah, I bet the over at 53 but cancelled out quite a bit b/c of the T-Mac worries. He was on the news complaining his knees have never been this bad or this early in the season. Yesterday they said he would start the opener, but I'm not real sure now.
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Old 11-01-2005, 02:50 AM
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Best starting 5 in the NBA, and Swift, Sura and Mutombo are coming on the bench. Tell me I'm wrong.

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I'd put them at 60% to make the playoffs. Maybe 15% to get out of the first round, 3% to make the conference finals. Less than 1% to win it all.

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Past disagreements aside, I usually have similar thoughts to you Clark. But 15% to make it out of the first round of the playoffs? That seems steep to me.

Obviously the #1 seed is set. But outside of that, there's enough parity that I don't think any of the 2-7, 3-6, or 4-5 matchups will haev a 3:1 favorite, which they'd need to be if Houston is 60% to make the playoffs.

Don't know if this rambling makes sense....but even with TMac's well publicized struggles to get out of the first round, I still think they have a 30% chance to get to the 2nd round, especially considering the way TMac played vs. Dallas in the playoffs last year.

My two cents....
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Old 11-01-2005, 03:14 AM
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Default Re: Houston Rockets are going to the finals, you can put money on it.

The Rockets already won 51 games last season. After T-Mac and Yao meshed, they went 27-10, which translates to 60 wins in a full season. They had separate 6-game, 7-game, and 8-game undefeated win-streaks. 53.5 wins for the season is a tough, tough line, either way.

The reason there is so much room for disagreement in this thread (after agreeing that the OP's comments are crazy), is that the West is wide open after San Antonio. Houston could easily be the 2nd best or the 6th best team. Houston, Dallas, Denver, Phoenix, and Sac are all strong teams. It will be an interesting season to watch which of those seize the lead.
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Old 11-01-2005, 04:20 AM
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Default Re: Houston Rockets are going to the finals, you can put money on it.

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The Rockets already won 51 games last season. After T-Mac and Yao meshed, they went 27-10

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Actually it was more tangible than that, The Rockets started out horrible with Tyron Lue playing point untill Sura returned and before the Barry/Wesley trades in late December they were under .500 So, the team that played most of the year last year was already better than a 51 win team. Another year of growth for Yao, and the additions of Swift, Derek Anderson, and Alston and I think they will be very solid. And just another note. If Howard didn't have a heart infection, they dispatch of the Mavericks last year without starting Ryan freaking Bowen. Man, that was bad depth,

One thing I'll advise is taking the over in Rocket's games once the season gets a few games in and the rust isn't on each team. They were a great "over" team even after the Barry/Wesley additions b/c of the idea people have of Van Gundy's style. With Swift, Anderson and Alston added Van Gundy said they will definitely be running even more this year.
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Old 11-01-2005, 08:31 AM
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I'll bite on the off chance you're looking for serious discussion. They are, in my opinion, at best the 6th best team in the west at this point, behind (in no particular order) the Suns, Spurs, Mavs, Nuggets, and Kings.

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You are an idiot. Rockets are 7 pt favorites vs the Kings tomorrow. Rockets are priced as bigger favorites to win the NBA Finals than all the other teams you mention as well, discounting the Spurs.



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Old 11-01-2005, 08:40 AM
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Default Re: Houston Rockets are going to the finals, you can put money on it.

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I'd put them at 60% to make the playoffs. Maybe 15% to get out of the first round, 3% to make the conference finals. Less than 1% to win it all.

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Change that number to about 60% to make it out of the first round and you all might start to sound like you know what you're talking about.

Right now the Rockets are priced on most sportsbooks as the 2nd or 3rd best team in the WC. If that happens, they will open their first round matchup at anywhere from -150 to -300 to win their first round, depending what seeding they get. I've never seen worse opinions in a sports betting forum in my life.
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Old 11-01-2005, 09:19 AM
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Are these posts real? Obviously the Rockets are nowhere near the Spurs right now, but they are clearly EXCELLENT. A very strong argument could be made for them being the 2nd best team in the west as their lineup is superb with Yao and TMac becoming an absolute elite pair. Saying things like Houston is 60% to make the playoffs and 10% or whatever it was to get out of the first round is as crazy as saying they're a lock to make the NBA finals.
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Old 11-01-2005, 10:12 AM
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I'll bite on the off chance you're looking for serious discussion. They are, in my opinion, at best the 6th best team in the west at this point, behind (in no particular order) the Suns, Spurs, Mavs, Nuggets, and Kings.

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You are an idiot. Rockets are 7 pt favorites vs the Kings tomorrow. Rockets are priced as bigger favorites to win the NBA Finals than all the other teams you mention as well, discounting the Spurs.



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Holy crap! 7 point favorites??? In November??? What the hell was I thinking??? Tell me Houston is at home, too! Wait ... what's that ... it's also the second of a back-to-back for Sacramento? Wow!

PS how could the Steelers only win by 1 last night? The books had them as 13 point favorites!

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