Hey you - learn from my mistakes - Page 2

car ramrod · #11 12-22-2005, 10:46 AM

he has KK with the K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] raise it again.

Songwind · #12 12-22-2005, 11:02 AM

I figure him for KK or QQ. Raise.

#13 12-22-2005, 11:07 AM

so yeah, raising would've been optimal. I paused, feared the flush, and just called. It was 1 back to BB, so he called. River was another T, BB bet out, MP2 folded, I called, he flipped up T7s.

Not only is a turn raise for value enough of the time to be profitable, it'll also protect your hand in this situation. As BB folds some percentage of the time to two bets on the turn, but probably always calls for one.

But you guys apparently already know that. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

MN_Mime · #14 12-22-2005, 11:43 AM

FWIW - many tens in microlimits aren't folding if you raise, either. He's clearly in calldown mode with top pair and facing aggression.

But raising the turn with your holding is still the right play.

tassie · #15 12-22-2005, 12:24 PM

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FWIW - many tens in microlimits aren't folding if you raise, either.

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True But they are giving you money by calling a raise so you want them to call.

P.S when i read it I said call...so that shows how much I know

MN_Mime · #16 12-22-2005, 02:06 PM

The pot's already big. You *never* want them to call here [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

You want to improve your chances to win this pot and your best chance is to get it headsup against the guy who thought he could beat aces preflop (you're definitely dominating him) rather than the guy who improved on the flop (and has already provided dead money) and hangs around giving you another battery of cards to dodge. Moreover, the other player is going to pay you the same if you raise as the cold-caller if you lie low, so why accept the increased risk? And if he calls the raise, that's more money when he fails to outdraw you on all streets.

#17 12-22-2005, 02:20 PM

grunch

I think this is a raise here, I put MP2 on a big pair or big suited broadway. By raising, I'm hoping for more information. We still may have the best hand here. Depending on the action, we may have a better idea if we are ahead or behind by putting in a raise.