Dumping JJ preflop

catlover · #1 10-10-2005, 03:15 AM

Good, bad, or ugly?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (4 handed) converter

Hero ($2522)
UTG ($1000)
Button ($893)
SB ($3067.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, Button raises to $30, SB raises to $135, [i], hero folds.

chuddo · #2 10-10-2005, 03:17 AM

call. hope button doesn't get it in there. flop a J. lead into field.

Garland · #3 10-10-2005, 03:19 AM

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Good, bad, or ugly?

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Reads?

At the very least with no reads, your stacks are both deep enough. Why don't you call the $105 and gamble?

Garland

catlover · #4 10-10-2005, 03:22 AM

You mean the $125?

Well, I don't know if my reasoning was right or wrong, but I felt there was a good chance I was beat, and also I was out of position.

Lucky · #5 10-10-2005, 03:24 AM

you can win 20 times what you'll call, and it is four handed. Unless he's a nit who only plays full games usually, you probably want to play.

The Ocho · #6 10-10-2005, 03:24 AM

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so? that's what the flop and beyond are for.

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I was out of position.

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not against the guy who really matters.

Garland · #7 10-10-2005, 03:25 AM

Sorry, I misread the action. I thought you were the initial raiser and hand to call the re-raise to $135. Yeah, I'd still call here and gamble. Original raiser is likely to fold most hands and you'll be in position to stack should a J hit.

Garland

AZK · #8 10-10-2005, 03:30 AM

Are you still beat when you flop a jack? How do you not make this call with your stacks?

Maulik · #9 10-10-2005, 03:30 AM

you can muck preflop if you only options are push/fold!

certainly a call is in order, if its re-raised then you can fold, being squeezed sucks, but I would like to know your reasoning for mucking PF.

flawless_victory · #10 10-10-2005, 03:32 AM

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Are you still beat when you flop a jack? How do you not make this call with your stacks?

[/ QUOTE ]hes not closing the action and the button is short... coldcalling here planning to play for a set is pretty bad dog. its not like a Jxx = auto double up.
are you calling here w/ 22? that woyuld be pretty bad.