Is this standard?

DrSavage · #1 12-16-2005, 11:44 PM

Villain is a TAG, on predictable side. I've shown that I'm willing to peel with ace high on flops and on some occasions take them to showdown. Is this a standard line?

PokerStars 10/20 Hold'em (4 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, Hero calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises

TStoneMBD · #2 12-17-2005, 12:05 AM

i dont like raising here. SB's hand range consists mostly of Ax hands.

wackjob · #3 12-17-2005, 05:30 AM

I would be more inclined to raise the flop in hopes of a free showdown. I think bluff raising an A is probably a bad idea typically.

flawless_victory · #4 12-17-2005, 08:43 AM

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I would be more inclined to raise the flop in hopes of a free showdown.

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do u mean free card? dont like it either way.

{/quote] I think bluff raising an A is probably a bad idea typically.

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no effing way. this raise is good. 4 sure.

Jeff W · #5 12-17-2005, 12:29 PM

I like it a lot.

Jdanz · #6 12-17-2005, 05:18 PM

can you guys explain? i've been on a big downswing recently and have been giving up on pure bluff raises to a large degree.

Do you think villian folds any pair here?

edit: if you do this how often do you do it?

Chris Daddy Cool · #7 12-17-2005, 05:23 PM

yes villian would fold a pair here from time to time (as he should unless your image is incredibly bad) and there is a good chance he does not have a pair anyways.

Jdanz · #8 12-17-2005, 05:24 PM

i just feel when i make this move i'm called down A LOT, still might be worth it, but i've been shying away cause i feel like i'm not getting a lot of folds.

sthief09 · #9 12-17-2005, 07:10 PM

he definitely would fold a pair here, but the question is does he have a smaller pair? would he check-call that instead? 55, 88, 99 won't fold. 66/77 won't fold but probably check-call anyway. 44-22 would bet to make you fold a bigger pair but not that many TAGs 3-bet those hands from the SB. KK-TT might bet-fold, but wouldn't they check-call just in case? that makes it look like he has an A to me. of course you gain vs KQ and KJ too. I don't see a predictable TAG 3-betting much else. the draw makes it better than just a pure bluff since a predictable TAG probably isn't finding a 3-bet with anything less than 2 pair, so you get to draw to that 4 outer pretty often.

I don't like it though. I think he check-calls his pairs too often and has AK-AJ, AA, 99-55 too often compared to the times he bet KK-TT on the turn

sthief09 · #10 12-17-2005, 07:11 PM

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I like it a lot.

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could you and flawless elaborate if you see this?