10/20 not much of a hand against LAG

[DrSavage]

I hate hands like this. Villain is something like 77/16/1.1 here. I'm still undecided about the turn bet, comments on river would be appreciated too.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

River: (6 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8 BB

[joker122]

it sucks making this call but i think you'll pick off a bluff 1 in 7 times.

[obsidian]

Picking off a flush draw bluff is enough to make this moderately profitable I believe.

[ArturiusX]

I like. Jack looks like a good for him to bluff at.

[DrSavage]

What do you guys think about turn bet ? It would suck to get checkraised here with a hand with certain showdown value and picked up flush draw. On the other hand, he would definitely at least call a bet with a flush draw, open ender or a gutushot. I'm really torn here.

[dave44]

I would like the turn bet a lot more if it was the 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], rather than the 10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. On the flop, he most likely has a pair, a straight draw, or a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] draw. The turn gives straight draws either the straight or a pair, so now you're only getting value out of flush draws and really loose flop calls on your turn bet. I'd rather check behind and call every river but a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] that doesn't improve me- maybe folding to Q's and 8's as well.

[DrSavage]

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On the flop, he most likely has a pair, a straight draw, or a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] draw.

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I'm pretty sure his range is way wider here.

[spydog]

I'm checking the turn and calling most non-heart rivers, while raising any club. The turn card improved a lot of hands that might have called the flop. There isn't much that he's folding on the turn after calling that flop.

[DMBFan23]

Dr. Savage,

I don't check ALL hands with outs anymore (I got obsessed with it for a while), I tend to bet the ones with more showdown value, and check the ones where I don't care if I have to fold the river. I don't know where this one falls on the scale, but I don't hate a turn bet at all, and it might be preferable.

I am undecided on the river.

[dave44]

Oops didn't notice the 77 VP$IP. Still the turn is a bad card for your fold equity and if he's LAGgy, he may semi-bluff you here with a wide range of hands. I'd still check, thinking a LAG will bet most rivers and you can pick off plenty of bluffs.