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Old 12-25-2005, 01:12 AM
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Default Safe Fold?

Table has a few loose players and a few tight players. In this situation after some calls and a raise, am I usually behind in this situation?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button (t3495)
SB (t2485)
BB (t2735)
UTG (t4315)
UTG+1 (t1080)
MP1 (t1170)
Hero (t2685)
MP3 (t1290)
CO (t3880)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t50, UTG+1 calls t50, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t100</font>, <font color="#666666">Hero Folds, 2 folds</font>, Button calls t100, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls t50, UTG+1 calls t50.
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Old 12-25-2005, 01:17 AM
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Table has a few loose players and a few tight players. In this situation after some calls and a raise, am I usually behind in this situation?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button (t3495)
SB (t2485)
BB (t2735)
UTG (t4315)
UTG+1 (t1080)
MP1 (t1170)
Hero (t2685)
MP3 (t1290)
CO (t3880)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t50, UTG+1 calls t50, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t100</font>, <font color="#666666">Hero Folds, 2 folds</font>, Button calls t100, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls t50, UTG+1 calls t50.

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Against a raise, JT is almost always a dog, but that's not the point of a hand like JT when playing against a raise. If your hand was suited, I think it would warrant a call to try and make a hand that can win a big pot. In this situation, this is an easy fold.
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Old 12-25-2005, 01:20 AM
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am I usually behind in this situation?


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Name a hand you are ahead of.
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Old 12-25-2005, 02:32 AM
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am I usually behind in this situation?


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Name a hand you are ahead of.

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There are a lot of people who will raise with Ax. The fact of this isn't about what I could beat, but if I am behind a majority of the time. In fact, on this hand, I would have lost. And not that what happens after is really of much concern at the time, the preflop raiser had A3 and lost to A9. That was why I posted this hand.

The very next hand I got JT again and limped in, but folded because I didn't catch anything on the flop.
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Old 12-25-2005, 02:53 AM
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am I usually behind in this situation?


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Name a hand you are ahead of.

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Maybe he MENAT to ask: Am I usually in decent shape in this situation:

Well..one player COULD have 88 and another COULD have AK...meaning YES...

but one could just as easily have AJo and the other KK.

I usually play 10 J about the same way I'd play 78.
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Old 12-25-2005, 02:56 AM
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If it's suited I'll play along and gladly fold any flop that doesn't create a monster or moster draw. Unsuited? Why bother?
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