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Old 11-09-2005, 07:33 PM
Bukem_ Bukem_ is offline
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Default How can I win this hand? Should I even try?

CParty Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Villain is a fish 40/4.

1) Can I convince him to fold with a turn bet, what size would be best.

2) If i check turn and he bets weak on a blank river will an all in push win for me?

Hero ($1011.75)
SB ($179.90)
BB ($605.40)
UTG ($338.35)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
UTG calls $6, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $22</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $16.

Flop: ($53) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $44</font>, UTG calls $44.

Turn: ($141) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks
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Old 11-09-2005, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: How can I win this hand? Should I even try?

have you seen him call down with nothing?
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Old 11-09-2005, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: How can I win this hand? Should I even try?

what makes you think you're not ahead. when you say villain is a fish can you list specific donk-like actions he's taken.
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Old 11-09-2005, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: How can I win this hand? Should I even try?

Does the villain call down a lot of hands, even in the face of large bets? What kind of hands does he call down with? Have you seen the villain pushed off a hand after he called a large flop bet? What is your image?

1) If you think it is possible to push him off the hand, bet something greater than half the pot on the turn.

2) If he bet the river, the last thing I'd do is push him all-in unless I have a hell of a read on him.
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Old 11-09-2005, 11:22 PM
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Default Re: How can I win this hand? Should I even try?

Why are you focusing on taking a small pot away from a donkey calling station?

Get a hand. Value bet it. Stack him. Rinse and repeat.

(By the way, the answer is: maybe. He might fold a jack or a smaller pair if you fire a second barrell.... but is it really worth finding out? How are we supposed to know anyway?)
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Old 11-09-2005, 11:51 PM
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Default Re: How can I win this hand? Should I even try?

[ QUOTE ]
Why are you focusing on taking a small pot away from a donkey calling station?

Get a hand. Value bet it. Stack him. Rinse and repeat.

(By the way, the answer is: maybe. He might fold a jack or a smaller pair if you fire a second barrell.... but is it really worth finding out? How are we supposed to know anyway?)

[/ QUOTE ]

I do this, but I am greedy and I want the money in this pot also. I know that on the turn he is either drawing, or very weak.

I didn't know enough about him though, so I let this one go to a $50 river bet. It was just begging to be stolen though.
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Old 11-10-2005, 12:09 AM
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Default Re: How can I win this hand? Should I even try?

This feels like a more sophisticated version of a new player posting "How do I beat these donks, they call with anything! They are unbeatable!"

You're good enough to know not to get greedy vs the donks. Let him have his little pot.
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