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Old 10-06-2005, 01:13 PM
shant shant is offline
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I think it is an easy fold.
You are only invested for $3 and it is extremely unlikely that you can win the hand. Think of it this way; It is very likely that a couple of the players have better PPs and even if the are all complete morons you know that the others have suited cards and if the game is loose no one is folding until the river. So you can call miss your 3 and fold (losing an additional $9) or hit your 3 and lose a big pot.


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This is why you don't post in the general forum for poker hand advice.
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Old 10-06-2005, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: I\'m sorry but I just have to ask . . .

I find it interesting that so many posters side with calling when, according to Miller and Sklansky's SSHE, pocket pairs smaller than TT should be folded to a raise and a re-raise. Check the Starting Hand Guidelines for Loose Games.
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Old 10-06-2005, 02:30 PM
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I find it interesting that so many posters side with calling when, according to Miller and Sklansky's SSHE, pocket pairs smaller than TT should be folded to a raise and a re-raise. Check the Starting Hand Guidelines for Loose Games.

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If they are talking about caling 3-bets cold with a pocket pair, they are correct. But it is also correct to call 2 more bets in the situation the original poster is talking about.

You may want to think about why that is.
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Old 10-06-2005, 02:38 PM
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I'm in # 6 and call with pocket threes.


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does that make it any easier to come up with a case for tossing the deuces into the muck ?


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Is this Omaha?? Im confused...
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Old 10-06-2005, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: I\'m sorry but I just have to ask . . .

geez....almosst got through the whole thread without someone bringing up this 3's and 2's bit.


If I had pocket-3's...and then when it got back to me I saw that I had pocket-2's I wold DEFINITELY throw them into the much. Because I was now seeing things that aren't there and would realize that it's time to call it a night.



However....in other situations this is an easy call.
A case can made if you see one guy getting ready to make it 4 bets and the other guy getting ready to make it 5-bets.
But otherwise, calling 2 bets cold here is clearly correct.


Worrying too much about situations where you lose set over set....or worrying about hitting your set but losing to a straight or flush is just silly.
The times you make a HUGE score when you do hit your set are more than enough to compensate for the times when your set or low full-house doesn't hold up.

For some reason there are LOTS of players out there who are convinced that hitting your set in a situation like this is such a bad thing because they feel the chances of the set actually holding up in such a large multi-way pot are too slim.
This is really silly thinking.
When you play a low pocket-pair to try to hit a set you WANT a large-multiway pot.

Playing a low pocket-pair against a small-field is what you DON'T want because the chances of you hitting the set aren't high enough compared with the chances of your opponents paying you off significantly on those occasions when you do.
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Old 10-06-2005, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: I\'m sorry but I just have to ask . . .

I guarantee Sklansky and Miller would say call in this situation, perhaps they'll even chime in here. See MaxPower's post.
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Old 10-06-2005, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: I\'m sorry but I just have to ask . . .

this is a bad first post.

first posts consist of either 1)bad beats or 2) party is rigged.

your post has too much analysis. please start a new account and conform to forum guidelines.
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Old 10-06-2005, 06:48 PM
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this is a bad first post.

first posts consist of either 1)bad beats or 2) party is rigged.

your post has too much analysis. please start a new account and conform to forum guidelines.

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Mine was (2). [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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Old 10-06-2005, 07:01 PM
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this is a bad first post.

first posts consist of either 1)bad beats or 2) party is rigged.

your post has too much analysis. please start a new account and conform to forum guidelines.

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You forgot #3. I've been crushing .5/.10, should I go pro???
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Old 10-06-2005, 07:19 PM
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... .5/.10 ...

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Now that structure will screw up your implied odds!
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