Agressive AJ from the BB

Spicymoose · #1 11-13-2005, 12:30 PM

Unknown villain...

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, Button raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, Button caps, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.33 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero raises, Button calls.

Turn: (6.16 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

River: (8.16 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 8.16 BB

Arnfinn Madsen · #2 11-13-2005, 12:38 PM

I think it is too aggressive against unknown villain since unknown villains usually just call your preflop 3-bet with a marginal hand. I would put an unknown villain here on a good hand range, and thus your flop check-raise isn't likely to make him fold often enough. When having check-raised the flop, I think the turn bet is worth a shot.

#3 11-13-2005, 12:56 PM

How weak is check fold? I would probably do it.

Spicymoose · #4 11-13-2005, 12:59 PM

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How weak is check fold? I would probably do it.

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I think I normally do this. I wanted to try something new.

TStoneMBD · #5 11-13-2005, 01:08 PM

checkraising doesnt have any value imo because you cannot possibly fold a better hand and youre only putting in more bets with a hand that is often behind.

having said that i dont know if i like cf, cc cf, cc cc cf, or cc cc cc.

Spicymoose · #6 11-13-2005, 01:15 PM

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checkraising doesnt have any value imo because you cannot possibly fold a better hand

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You don't think I get 77-JJ, AJ, AT to fold ocasionally on the flop, or at least on my contination bet?

I agree it is expensive, but does it at least work sometimes?

TStoneMBD · #7 11-13-2005, 01:39 PM

no i dont think you ever get those pairs to fold. i also dont know why you included ATo into that list of hands, but AJo will fold sometimes.

rhizome · #8 11-13-2005, 01:40 PM

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checkraising doesnt have any value imo because you cannot possibly fold a better hand

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You don't think I get 77-JJ, AJ, AT to fold ocasionally on the flop, or at least on my contination bet?

I agree it is expensive, but does it at least work sometimes?

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It will work sometimes, but against an unknown I don't like risky plays. Stick with things that will work most of the time against an unknown.

imported_leader · #9 11-13-2005, 03:56 PM

I'd just C/F it on the flop

Schizo · #10 11-14-2005, 02:07 PM

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having said that i dont know if i like cf, cc cf, cc cc cf, or cc cc cc.

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What hands could you possibly beat that caps preflop?