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12-14-2005, 08:34 PM
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Re: Why the war on drugs will never be won
See PoBoy? The lawyers know you are on to them and are already fighting back with misinformation.
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#22
12-14-2005, 09:10 PM
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Re: Why the war on drugs will never be won
You're still missing the biggest reason of all : Drug profits are BIG, BIG, BIG money. It was no accident that Oliver North and his crowd used drug money to fund their little side-projects (Contras, etc) -- it's hard to trace, there's TONS of it, and as long as they can keep the fundies whipped up it'll always keep coming. It's a very, very useful funding source for the "off the books" crowd. q/q
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#23
12-14-2005, 09:36 PM
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Re: Why the war on drugs will never be won
The reason why the war on drugs will never be won is that Chuck Noris refuses to fight it.
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12-14-2005, 10:04 PM
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Re: Why the war on drugs will never be won
If Heroin, Acid, Mushrooms, Pot, Crystal Meth, PCP, Crack, Cocaine, Opium, Mescaline, and every kind of painkiller/pill could be bought for super cheap at your local 7-11 by anyone of any age (pure free market), would addictions to these drugs increase or decrease? Low paying agricultural jobs are added and some executives get super rich. Is this better or worse for the economy?
[ QUOTE ] Legalize, and you create new jobs [/ QUOTE ] You could also create new jobs by legalizing murder for hire. [ QUOTE ] we're not paying as much to keep so many prisoners alive. [/ QUOTE ] This doesnt add to your argument, because likewise we could legalize drunk driving and not have to pay so much money to officers and lawyers and judges and jails that punish drunk drivers. That doesnt mean we should legalize drunk driving.
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12-14-2005, 11:50 PM
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Re: Why the war on drugs will never be won
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bought for super cheap at your local 7-11 by anyone of any age [/ QUOTE ] Pure strawman. Nobody anywhere is advocating this. Drugs and their distribution can certainly be properly regulated without being treated like candy. The notion that we have to have full-scale prohibition or total non-regulation is absurd on its face. q/q
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12-15-2005, 12:34 AM
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Re: Why the war on drugs will never be won
What would be the purpose in regulating crystal meth?
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12-15-2005, 12:41 AM
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Re: Why the war on drugs will never be won
[ QUOTE ]
If Heroin, Acid, Mushrooms, Pot, Crystal Meth, PCP, Crack, Cocaine, Opium, Mescaline, and every kind of painkiller/pill could be bought for super cheap at your local 7-11 by anyone of any age (pure free market), would addictions to these drugs increase or decrease? Low paying agricultural jobs are added and some executives get super rich. Is this better or worse for the economy? [/ QUOTE ] If people want to do drugs, they will do them regardless of the presence of state intervention. The reason people don’t do drugs is because they are aware of the adverse effects, not for fear of the law. Conversely, some people DO choose to do drugs and they should have every right to do so. These people aren’t just going to ‘give up’ just because the state illegalized them, they will pursue them regardless. This has been proven by the black markets. The legalization of drugs may increase addiction somewhat, not as much as you think though. Regarding your second point on the economy, the positive effects on the economy would not only lie in the addition of a new industry, but the ceasing of one of the most wasteful of the government’s many inefficient campaigns. [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Legalize, and you create new jobs [/ QUOTE ] You could also create new jobs by legalizing murder for hire. [/ QUOTE ] Poor example. One is providing a product which people demand, the other is promoting the illegal use of force. [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] we're not paying as much to keep so many prisoners alive. [/ QUOTE ] This doesn’t add to your argument, because likewise we could legalize drunk driving and not have to pay so much money to officers and lawyers and judges and jails that punish drunk drivers. That doesn’t mean we should legalize drunk driving. [/ QUOTE ] Again, different things. Drunk drivers hurt other people, against their will. Drug dealers are technically hurting other people, but it consensual. Likewise, the person taking the drugs owns his body, therefore he chooses what to do with it.
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12-15-2005, 01:12 AM
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Re: Why the war on drugs will never be won
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What would be the purpose in regulating crystal meth? [/ QUOTE ] (1) to make it impossible for a dealer/pusher to earn a profit on it, thereby destroying their financial incentive to spread the drug. (2) to reduce the harm/risk to the user (3) to reduce the harm/risk to the general population q/q
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#29
12-15-2005, 01:18 AM
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Re: Why the war on drugs will never be won
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(1) to make it impossible for a dealer/pusher to earn a profit on it, thereby destroying their financial incentive to spread the drug. (2) to reduce the harm/risk to the user (3) to reduce the harm/risk to the general population [/ QUOTE ] Couldnt you also do this by making crystal meth illegal and assigning law enforcement agents to track down producers and dealers of it?
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#30
12-15-2005, 01:34 AM
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Re: Why the war on drugs will never be won
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] (1) to make it impossible for a dealer/pusher to earn a profit on it, thereby destroying their financial incentive to spread the drug. (2) to reduce the harm/risk to the user (3) to reduce the harm/risk to the general population [/ QUOTE ] Couldnt you also do this by making crystal meth illegal and assigning law enforcement agents to track down producers and dealers of it? [/ QUOTE ] No.
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