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Re: QQ on Interesting Turn
I decided to call and bet most rivers.
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#12
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Re: QQ on Interesting Turn
you're beat.. oh and p.s. i like the flop bet.. but obviously your opponents arent going anywhere.. check/fold this 9 turn.
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#13
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Re: QQ on Interesting Turn
ok.. so you're getting 11:1.. you're probably behind at this point.. theres an over.. and you're facing multi opponents.. im still folding.
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oh and p.s.
its 2/4.. 11:1 is not that rare of an occasion that you need to be throwing bets away at opponents to MAYBE win a 3 big bet side pot.. |
#15
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Re: QQ on Interesting Turn
folding getting at least 11:1, if you were going to get raised on the turn they would have already done it. Sorry but this is horrible.
I call hoping to get 12:1. Our hand is probably good but we want to bring UTG along anyway. I don't think 3-betting has much merit because a K will probably call and anything we beat will most likely fold. The board isn't draw heavy so I don't think there is much for him to draw to. I bet most rivers, but don't like getting raised. |
#16
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I decided to call and bet most rivers. [/ QUOTE ] Are you hoping to fold a better hand? Because I don't see any hand that limps UTG, calls this flop not closing the action, calls the turn and a turn raise, then calls a river bet that you beat. |
#17
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I decided to call and bet most rivers. [/ QUOTE ] I think this a good plan as you should pick up extra money from UTG who appears to not have a K. I suggested a 3-bet on the turn for this reason, but thinking about it a little more I like this plan better as you encourage this guy to call with a wider range. OTOH though, it would be really sexy if you 3-bet promotion raise the turn, forcing out a better hand from UTG while getting all in against a guy trying to get his money in on a long shot. This is probably wishful thinking, but maybe, just maybe.... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] |
#18
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[ QUOTE ] I decided to call and bet most rivers. [/ QUOTE ] Are you hoping to fold a better hand? Because I don't see any hand that limps UTG, calls this flop not closing the action, calls the turn and a turn raise, then calls a river bet that you beat. [/ QUOTE ] AQ, AJ, AT, A9s, 55, 66, 77, 88, JJ, JT. |
#19
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ok.. so you're getting 11:1.. you're probably behind at this point.. theres an over.. and you're facing multi opponents.. im still folding. [/ QUOTE ] Hi Bill King, 11:1 is enough to call on his four gutshot outs alone. Best wishes, Shant |
#20
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I decided to call and bet most rivers. [/ QUOTE ] Are you hoping to fold a better hand? Because I don't see any hand that limps UTG, calls this flop not closing the action, calls the turn and a turn raise, then calls a river bet that you beat. [/ QUOTE ] AQ, AJ, AT, A9s, 55, 66, 77, 88, JJ, JT. [/ QUOTE ] AQ, AJ raise preflop. If they don't, they're not calling a river bet. 55, 66, 77, 88, A9 are never calling a flop and turn bet, let alone a river bet. AT, JT are extremely slim possibilities after Hero raised preflop and bet every street. JJ is the only one I would say could call a river bet but it would have raised preflop. |
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