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Old 12-02-2005, 07:32 PM
billyjex billyjex is offline
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Default Doyle told me not to go broke in unraised pots...

but I don't know what to do here. I don't want to let him see the turn cheaply but any hand that gives me action on my flop 3-bet probably has me crushed.

Check flop? Just call his turn raise and reevaluate? What do I do if a blank hits the turn?

Me and villian have $400. 1st hand at table and no read.

CO calls, Button calls, I check in the BB w/ T9o.

Flop is Ks Ts 9c. I bet the pot ($14.)

CO folds, Button makes it $30. I make it $110?
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Old 12-02-2005, 07:34 PM
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Default Re: Doyle told me not to go broke in unraised pots...

Any reads on villain? How I play this would be 100% player dependent. Some people I'm more then happy to play a big pot with here. Others, not so much.
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Old 12-02-2005, 07:35 PM
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Default Re: Doyle told me not to go broke in unraised pots...

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Any reads on villain? How I play this would be 100% player dependent. Some people I'm more then happy to play a big pot with here. Others, not so much.

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i agree, as does everyone else here i'm sure. i don't like seeing a 15%/2% coming over the top here...
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Old 12-02-2005, 07:36 PM
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Default Re: Doyle told me not to go broke in unraised pots...

My first hand on table. Never played with villian before, and I'm on a site where you can't datamine.
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Old 12-02-2005, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: Doyle told me not to go broke in unraised pots...

Sorry I read your OP too fast and didn't see the "first hand no reads disclaimer."

This spot sucks. I'd probably raise as well in the 90-110 range and plan to fold to even a min-reraise. If he smooth calls my action on the turn would depends lots on the card.
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Old 12-02-2005, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: Doyle told me not to go broke in unraised pots...

Meh so many draws, I think I just call and play the turn. Lead for 60 on a blank, fold to a really bad card like Q or J spades and deal with the rest.
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Old 12-02-2005, 07:48 PM
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Default Re: Doyle told me not to go broke in unraised pots...

Of course a read would help a lot, but without one I'm not sure I like the reraise. Villain is probably on a big K or a flush draw, which means you've got to slow down if the turn brings a spade, K, or even a Q or J, I could see villain limping and then min-raising the flop with KQ or KJ here so if a Q or J hits he might luck his way into a straight or two bigger pair...

And you might be behind on that flop anyway if he limped with QJ, KT, something like that. Without a read, I'm calling his min-raise and playing it cautiously from there.
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Old 12-02-2005, 07:59 PM
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Default Re: Doyle told me not to go broke in unraised pots...

Well, the good news is you're almost certainly not drawing dead.

Against an unknown here, I think I like calling and leading a blank turn folding to a raise, seems unlikely he'd raise you with a worse hand or a draw after that action.

If the draw hits the turn, I would be torn between bet/folding, check/folding and check/raising as a value bluff, depending on the player.

Then check/call blank river if he just calls. If it hits... block bet a passive player, probably check/fold v. an aggro.
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Old 12-02-2005, 09:15 PM
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Default Re: Doyle told me not to go broke in unraised pots...

Thanks for the responses. I think the best line is too definetely call the flop raise and act on the turn based on what the card is.

In the actual hand, villian folded to the 3-bet after much deliberation. He asked me in the chad if I had KT, and I told him my hand (I know I shouldn't, I guess I was just in a good mood.) He said he had K9.

Of course he could be full of it but he sounded sincere (as sincere as you could sound in an online chat box.)
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Old 12-02-2005, 09:18 PM
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Default Re: Doyle told me not to go broke in unraised pots...

I just call the raise on the flop and lead a blank turn 2/3 pot or so, if he raises I release the hand.
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