spitting midhigh

[CardSharpCook]

While it might be nice for 15-30 to have a more comfortable home, as Dynasty suggested, this forum doesn't have a lot of traffic anyway.

FWIW, I think that 10/20 through 30-60 should be considered mid, all else high. To suggest that 10/20 and 15/30 belong in SS is a little silly. People playing 10/20 are making $50-$200 an hour, that isn't small stakes by any strech of the imagination.

[bobbyi]

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there are too many 15/30 hands which I don't think is/should be considered middle limit

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This is exactly the motivation here. I think describing the proposal as “splitting midhigh” is very misleading and I agree that if that were what was proposed it would be a questionable idea. But that isn’t the goal. The real goal is take what today is two forums—small and midhigh—and turn it into three forums: small, mid and high. Today’s midhigh forum would be very similar to the new “high” forum. It would be roughly for online 30/60 and up and for higher live games (the exact limits would need to be agreed upon by the community). Most people who today post here would probably now post in “high” and be relatively unaffected by the change.

The new mid forum would be roughly for 10/20 through 20/40 limits. Today, these limits are mostly posted in small stakes alongside 2/4 hands, but 2/4 and 15/30 really don’t (in my opinion) belong in the same forum. Really, 15/30 hands have no home today. They aren’t welcome by many in the midhigh forum (as Josh’s comment suggests) and they are somewhat out of place in the small stakes forum. I think it makes sense to have a forum in between small stakes and this one and I think there is enough traffic to support the three forums (micro limits would presumably be unaffected by the change so isn’t really in the discussion). In practice, I think the effect of the change would be much closer to splitting small stakes than splitting this forum.

[Dave Mac]

I have mixed feelings, I don't post that much because I feel like for the most part the forum has been slow and uninterestering and a lot of the hands seem to stress the same ideas. however, if you do want to split the forum i think it should be something like 15-30 to 30-60, esp all party hands, and all 15-30 and 20-40 casino hands.
then the second forum would be online 50-100 and above and casino from about 30-60/40-80 and up. i think that the 30 and 40 casino hands are very boarderline, and it depends a lot on the game and the post and everything. however, i also think that the bottom line is the forum is to learn, not strengently enforce what limits can be posted and what cannot. it would be very stupid to take a good meanful post that we could learn from and moving or deleting it because it is not in the correct forum etc. so i guess i am saying that a split is fine, break it up into bascailly smaller casino games and party hands. and then big games everywhere, online and casino. but, the mods for the various forums should be juditicous about moving and locking threads.
dave

[ike]

For internet games, I think the difference between 30/60 and higher levels is greater than the difference between 30/60 and lower levels. I'd put 30/60 in mid. I think the only 40/80 game on the net is paradise and it could go either way. 50/100 is definetly high.

[bobbyi]

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First off, inquiring minds want to know who is the moderator of the moderators' forum?...heh

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Mat Sklansky

[ihardlyknowher]

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I think the limits should be enforced stronger. there are too many 15/30 hands which I don't think is/should be considered middle limit

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At least for the online games, this seems like an illogical place to split, since most of the players in the 15 game also play in the 20 and vice versa.

[bobbyi]

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suggestion 2: split into 2 forums, 'midhigh casino' and 'midhigh internet'

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As many have stated, I don't think there is enough traffic on midhigh to justify this. It is perfectly capable of supporting both live and online games as it does today, so I don't see the problem with having them in the same forum. I don't think this same objection holds for suggestion 1 because it is more akin to a split of small stakes than a split of mid stakes since I would guess (completely unscientific guess without asking the parties I mention) that it would attract threads like the jason_t/entity/tstone discussions that correctly live in small stakes.

[private joker]

I stated this in Small Stakes, but I'll repeat it here.

I think it's best to not create another new forum, but to push 2/4 down into micro-limit, make SS go from 3/6 to 15/30, and put 20/40 and up in mid-high.

Since live 15/30 plays like online 3/6, this isn't such a bad idea.

[Lawrence Ng]

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First off, inquiring minds want to know who is the moderator of the moderators' forum?...heh

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Commudus

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Lawrence

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I stated this in Small Stakes, but I'll repeat it here.

I think it's best to not create another new forum, but to push 2/4 down into micro-limit, make SS go from 3/6 to 15/30, and put 20/40 and up in mid-high.

Since live 15/30 plays like online 3/6, this isn't such a bad idea.

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I think that many people will just continue to use their respective forums anyway. We have for example 10/20 hands in micro limits sometimes and 3/6 hands every day. And I see 15/30 live hands in midhigh. I guess people post in the forums they get responses and feel comfortable in.