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09-07-2005, 02:01 PM
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Re: Official Predestination and Calvinism Post
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Hang on, I don't understand. God (to angels) "Billy, Jimmy, Timmy, Sally, Harry ... go forth and give them scripture, knowledge, faith for I have predestined these five to be saved." Angels "Aye, Aye captain!" God (to angels) "Joe, Jim, Kim, Tim, Tom ... go forth and give them the evils of murderous rage, satanism, and heroin addiction for I have predestined these five to go to hell and be damned" Angels: "Aye, Aye captain" Is this how it works? Cheers, SDM [/ QUOTE ] God doesn't need to go through angels. In fact, it is Him controling the angels, and it is him controling the human response to the angels. Thus it's more like: "I have predestined these five to destruction so that my five will worship me all the greater, I will bring about in their lives sins of gluttony, adultery, addition, and more" *check, *check *check 
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#42
09-07-2005, 04:59 PM
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Re: Official Predestination and Calvinism Post
Not neccesarily you can come to Christianity at any time. No one except God knows who is predestined.
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09-08-2005, 05:36 AM
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Re: Official Predestination and Calvinism Post
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[ QUOTE ] Hang on, I don't understand. God (to angels) "Billy, Jimmy, Timmy, Sally, Harry ... go forth and give them scripture, knowledge, faith for I have predestined these five to be saved." Angels "Aye, Aye captain!" God (to angels) "Joe, Jim, Kim, Tim, Tom ... go forth and give them the evils of murderous rage, satanism, and heroin addiction for I have predestined these five to go to hell and be damned" Angels: "Aye, Aye captain" Is this how it works? Cheers, SDM [/ QUOTE ] God doesn't need to go through angels. In fact, it is Him controling the angels, and it is him controling the human response to the angels. Thus it's more like: "I have predestined these five to destruction so that my five will worship me all the greater, I will bring about in their lives sins of gluttony, adultery, addition, and more" *check, *check *check [/ QUOTE ] So the 5 pre-dammed can't undamn themselves by accepting the gospel? They are programmed before birth to 'reject reject reject' to counter the others who are programmed to 'accept accept accept'? The only difference being the acceptors inherit heaven forever and the rejectors inherit hell forever, despite neither actually do anything of their own free will to contribute to the path they are destined to walk? Cheers, SDM
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