Help . . . I lost all my $$ with AK again.

[Grisgra]

Please tell me what I did wrong, if anything. Just really lost on how to play ANY hand postflop. Stupid NL . . .

***** Hand History for Game 2501567513 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:14667750 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Monday, August 08, 20:39:47 EDT 2005
Table Table 12231 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: TTAAZ ( $380 )
Seat 2: Kalani182 ( $843 )
Seat 3: pingshark ( $837 )
Seat 6: Grisgra ( $770 )
Seat 7: golfinguy ( $1245 )
Seat 8: feefeegee ( $915 )
Seat 9: yunonymous ( $515 )
Seat 10: kid_ghost ( $2495 )
Trny:14667750 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Grisgra [ Kh Ac ]
Kalani182 folds.
pingshark folds.
Grisgra raises [85].
golfinguy folds.
feefeegee calls [85].
yunonymous folds.
kid_ghost folds.
TTAAZ calls [55].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7s, Jh, Ah ]
TTAAZ checks.
Grisgra bets [175].
feefeegee calls [175].
TTAAZ folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8h ]
Grisgra is all-In [510]
feefeegee calls [510].
** Dealing River ** [ Ts ]
Grisgra shows [ Kh, Ac ] a pair of aces.
feefeegee shows [ 7h, Qh ] a flush, ace high.
feefeegee wins 1640 chips from the main pot with a flush, ace high.
Grisgra finished in eighth place.
>You have options at walk a tight rope Table!.
Grisgra has left the table.

[TStokes]

I would raise to about 120 preflop. I would probably play its the same as you did after the flop.

[lorinda]

You rivered the wrong ten. You should have rivered the ten of hearts.

Lori

[Grisgra]

[ QUOTE ]
You rivered the wrong ten. You should have rivered the ten of hearts.

Lori

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Thanks. Anything else? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[lorinda]

That's definitely the worst thing you did in this pot.

I don't think anything else can be particuarly critisised, other than it's easier to think about for us if you cut the results out of the post and have a title along the lines of "AK hand, postflop play" rather than one where we know the result.

Lori

[Grisgra]

Let's say I didn't have the K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in this hand. Do I go all-in on the turn? Bet/call? Check/fold to an all-in?

Maybe it's just the Party structure but it's annoying that if I raise preflop and make a continuation bet on the flop, by the time the turn comes around the pot is bigger than my stack and I've got 2:1 on any call I make. Meaning that with TPTK, I'm going broke.

[citanul]

I would push this on the flop.

citanul

[Grisgra]

Can you explain your reasoning? Is it that if I get called, I'm pot committed anyway, so why not just push?

[KingDan]

Citanul, you do not think you can try to 'milk' this at all?

I am thinkingthis is similar to WAWB, because as nearly often as he turns a flush we river one?

And if there is no flush on turn we are pushing anyway.

[Paul Thomson]

why don't you just check the turn. it'll appear as scary to him as to you. if he goes all-in, then you can reeavulate. if he checks, then i'd put a bet in on the river.

the same situation is even better if you have position. i check the turn hoping to induce a bluff on the river. I'm not sure if this +EV, but it seems to work at the levels i play...20's and 30's.

gl