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Old 07-07-2005, 05:06 AM
HighStakesPro HighStakesPro is offline
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This is a hand history which proves that it is impossible to make plays on the internet in small stakes (2/4 in this case)

PokerStars Game #2050128415: Hold'em Limit ($2/$4) - 2005/07/07 - 04:28:14 (ET)
Table 'Sargas' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: alaskansam ($53 in chips)
Seat 2: SIMPETI ($462.50 in chips)
Seat 3: k7holler ($37 in chips)
Seat 4: dee.vegas ($50 in chips)
Seat 5: Di$co Stu ($87 in chips)
Seat 6: DarkTremor ($37 in chips)
DarkTremor: posts small blind $1
alaskansam: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DarkTremor [5c 5h]
SIMPETI: folds
k7holler: calls $2
dee.vegas: calls $2
Di$co Stu: raises $2 to $4
DarkTremor: raises $2 to $6
alaskansam: folds
k7holler: calls $4
dee.vegas: folds
Di$co Stu: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [8d Kh Ks]
DarkTremor: bets $2
k7holler: folds
Di$co Stu: raises $2 to $4
DarkTremor: calls $2
*** TURN *** [8d Kh Ks] [4c]
DarkTremor: checks
Di$co Stu: bets $4
DarkTremor: raises $4 to $8
Di$co Stu: calls $4
*** RIVER *** [8d Kh Ks 4c] [8c]
DarkTremor: bets $4
Di$co Stu: calls $4
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DarkTremor: shows [5c 5h] (two pair, Kings and Eights)
Di$co Stu: shows [9d 9c] (two pair, Kings and Nines)
Di$co Stu collected $52 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $54 | Rake $2
Board [8d Kh Ks 4c 8c]
Seat 1: alaskansam (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: SIMPETI folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: k7holler folded on the Flop
Seat 4: dee.vegas folded before Flop
Seat 5: Di$co Stu (button) showed [9d 9c] and won ($52) with two pair, Kings and Nines
Seat 6: DarkTremor (small blind) showed [5c 5h] and lost with two pair, Kings and Eights
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Old 07-07-2005, 05:24 AM
Willluck Willluck is offline
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[ QUOTE ]
This is a hand history which proves that it is impossible to make plays on the internet in small stakes (2/4 in this case)

PokerStars Game #2050128415: Hold'em Limit ($2/$4) - 2005/07/07 - 04:28:14 (ET)
Table 'Sargas' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: alaskansam ($53 in chips)
Seat 2: SIMPETI ($462.50 in chips)
Seat 3: k7holler ($37 in chips)
Seat 4: dee.vegas ($50 in chips)
Seat 5: Di$co Stu ($87 in chips)
Seat 6: DarkTremor ($37 in chips)
DarkTremor: posts small blind $1
alaskansam: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DarkTremor [5c 5h]
SIMPETI: folds
k7holler: calls $2
dee.vegas: calls $2
Di$co Stu: raises $2 to $4
DarkTremor: raises $2 to $6
alaskansam: folds
k7holler: calls $4
dee.vegas: folds
Di$co Stu: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [8d Kh Ks]
DarkTremor: bets $2
k7holler: folds
Di$co Stu: raises $2 to $4
DarkTremor: calls $2
*** TURN *** [8d Kh Ks] [4c]
DarkTremor: checks
Di$co Stu: bets $4
DarkTremor: raises $4 to $8
Di$co Stu: calls $4
*** RIVER *** [8d Kh Ks 4c] [8c]
DarkTremor: bets $4
Di$co Stu: calls $4
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DarkTremor: shows [5c 5h] (two pair, Kings and Eights)
Di$co Stu: shows [9d 9c] (two pair, Kings and Nines)
Di$co Stu collected $52 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $54 | Rake $2
Board [8d Kh Ks 4c 8c]
Seat 1: alaskansam (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: SIMPETI folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: k7holler folded on the Flop
Seat 4: dee.vegas folded before Flop
Seat 5: Di$co Stu (button) showed [9d 9c] and won ($52) with two pair, Kings and Nines
Seat 6: DarkTremor (small blind) showed [5c 5h] and lost with two pair, Kings and Eights

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Old 07-07-2005, 05:24 AM
kurosh kurosh is offline
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Default Re: Nobody ever believes me

Everyone should always fold to your bluffs. Move up to higher limits immediately.
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Old 07-07-2005, 05:27 AM
Willluck Willluck is offline
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I hear 30/60 players always fold in this situation.
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Old 07-07-2005, 05:34 AM
Scruff Scruff is offline
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I believe it shows that you built a situation where he would have to fold a pretty strong hand getting 5.75:1 odds (assuming he's going to call your check raise and river bet, he'll win $46 when he's good and lose $8 when he's not).
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Old 07-07-2005, 09:00 AM
The Glove The Glove is offline
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Nobody ever believes that you're a High Stakes Pro because you post 2/4 hands asking for help.

Glad I could be of service.

GP
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Old 07-07-2005, 09:19 AM
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that was the undeniable proof i needed to stop playing online SS; thank you for your contributions to making these forums a place of learning, development, and discussion.
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Old 07-07-2005, 10:18 AM
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[ QUOTE ]
This is a hand history which proves that it is impossible to make plays on the internet in small stakes (2/4 in this case)

PokerStars Game #2050128415: Hold'em Limit ($2/$4) - 2005/07/07 - 04:28:14 (ET)
Table 'Sargas' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: alaskansam ($53 in chips)
Seat 2: SIMPETI ($462.50 in chips)
Seat 3: k7holler ($37 in chips)
Seat 4: dee.vegas ($50 in chips)
Seat 5: Di$co Stu ($87 in chips)
Seat 6: DarkTremor ($37 in chips)
DarkTremor: posts small blind $1
alaskansam: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DarkTremor [5c 5h]
SIMPETI: folds
k7holler: calls $2
dee.vegas: calls $2
Di$co Stu: raises $2 to $4
DarkTremor: raises $2 to $6
alaskansam: folds
k7holler: calls $4
dee.vegas: folds
Di$co Stu: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [8d Kh Ks]
DarkTremor: bets $2
k7holler: folds
Di$co Stu: raises $2 to $4
DarkTremor: calls $2
*** TURN *** [8d Kh Ks] [4c]
DarkTremor: checks
Di$co Stu: bets $4
DarkTremor: raises $4 to $8
Di$co Stu: calls $4
*** RIVER *** [8d Kh Ks 4c] [8c]
DarkTremor: bets $4
Di$co Stu: calls $4
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DarkTremor: shows [5c 5h] (two pair, Kings and Eights)
Di$co Stu: shows [9d 9c] (two pair, Kings and Nines)
Di$co Stu collected $52 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $54 | Rake $2
Board [8d Kh Ks 4c 8c]
Seat 1: alaskansam (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: SIMPETI folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: k7holler folded on the Flop
Seat 4: dee.vegas folded before Flop
Seat 5: Di$co Stu (button) showed [9d 9c] and won ($52) with two pair, Kings and Nines
Seat 6: DarkTremor (small blind) showed [5c 5h] and lost with two pair, Kings and Eights

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PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, CO folds, Button calls.

Flop: (11 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls.

River: (11.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 5c 5h (two pair, kings and eights).
Button has 9d 9c (two pair, kings and nines).
Outcome: Button wins 13.50 BB. </font>

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Old 07-07-2005, 10:28 AM
Two_Slick Two_Slick is offline
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Default Re: Nobody ever believes me

Hand converter broken for PP? If not, then what am I doing wrong... I copy and paste directly from hand history to no avail.
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Old 07-07-2005, 10:41 AM
Two_Slick Two_Slick is offline
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My analysis of this hand:



(Stole this from DMB Fan)
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