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#12
04-18-2005, 05:43 PM
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Re: 47s big draw, standard?
I agree it's pretty marginal (and it's not offsuit, so it's not the nuts...) but getting 3.5:1 preflop on my call closing the action with good relative position against a LAG who is going to pay off if I hit, I felt at the time the implied odds would justify a call.
Any thoughts on post flop? KoW 
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#13
04-18-2005, 05:46 PM
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Re: 47s big draw, standard?
I play the hand the exact same way you did, except I make my draw. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
-Trail
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#16
04-18-2005, 06:32 PM
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Re: 47s big draw, standard?
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Do you have a different line to propose? check-call, check-fold? What is your default play in this spot against a LAG? [/ QUOTE ] I'm still learning. I would have folded preflop for $3. I don't have enough experience to know that I can play well enough after the flop to make this call +EV. If I did get this flop with this hand, I don't have a default play, which is why I'm curious if this is really standard. I don't feel comfortable with any of the possible lines, which is why I'd have folded preflop. I guess betting the pot and reraising all in or checking and reraising all in might be best, but I'd have a hard time doing it. The pot isn't very big, but I guess that is limit thinking. In NL I want to take my opponents stack, and the pot size isn't as relevant. With this hand I see a virtual coinflip and I'd rather get all in with my LAG opponent later when I have more of an advantage. If I check/call, I think I'm a genius when I hit my hand on the turn and I check raise all in. When I miss and he bets the pot again on the turn I think I'm an idiot and wish I had pushed the flop so I could see both cards. I'm not saying the OP's line was wrong, I'm saying I am inexperienced and I need to be shown the light. Anyone care to help me out here?
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#17
04-18-2005, 06:48 PM
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Re: 47s big draw, standard?
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If I check/call, I think I'm a genius when I hit my hand on the turn and I check raise all in. [/ QUOTE ] The problem with this is that your all-in is transparent, allowing villain to get off of his hand, or your opponent might check behind since a draw got there. This move is not to be used with any draw, obviously, but more for really strong ones (OESFD, OESD+FD, FD+2overcards, etc.) It typically creates a lot of folding equity that can push players off of current better hands, which is also where a lot of the value comes. [ QUOTE ] I don't feel comfortable with any of the possible lines, which is why I'd have folded preflop. [/ QUOTE ] Once you get more comfortable playing hands like these and cards like these, this stuff will become more routine. -Trail
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#19
04-18-2005, 07:26 PM
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Re: 47s big draw, standard?
[ QUOTE ]
I agree it's pretty marginal (and it's not offsuit, so it's not the nuts...) but getting 3.5:1 preflop on my call closing the action with good relative position against a LAG who is going to pay off if I hit, I felt at the time the implied odds would justify a call. Any thoughts on post flop? KoW [/ QUOTE ] Then you played it wrong post flop. Do you see why? (I always wanted to say that.)
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