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Old 12-04-2005, 04:28 PM
gol4pro gol4pro is offline
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Default Someone kick me in the ass

My river play has really been sucking lately. By that, I mean I've become a freakin' check/call type nit, and I'm losing astronomical amounts of value. As I'm sure all of you know, value betting strong (but non-nut) hands on the river in big pots can make a HUGE difference in profits.

Here's an awesome example. How do I stop being a nit?

I raise 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] to 2xBB (120BB stacks, 50NL), 3 callers.

Flop J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
-- I bet 3$, button calls (unknown)

pot 10
Turn 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
- I check, he bets 4$, I raise to 22$, he calls

river A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
-- I lose my balls and check.

He shows 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
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Old 12-04-2005, 04:30 PM
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Default Re: Someone kick me in the ass

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Someone kick me in the ass

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I will, but only for min-raising pre-flop
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Old 12-04-2005, 04:33 PM
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Default Re: Someone kick me in the ass

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My river play has really been sucking lately. By that, I mean I've become a freakin' check/call type nit, and I'm losing astronomical amounts of value. As I'm sure all of you know, value betting strong (but non-nut) hands on the river in big pots can make a HUGE difference in profits.

Here's an awesome example. How do I stop being a nit?

I raise 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] to 2xBB (120BB stacks, 50NL), 3 callers.

Flop J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
-- I bet 3$, button calls (unknown)

pot 10
Turn 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
- I check, he bets 4$, I raise to 22$, he calls

river A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
-- I lose my balls and check.

He shows 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

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LOLOLOL U suck.
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Old 12-04-2005, 04:36 PM
4_2_it 4_2_it is offline
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Default Re: Someone kick me in the ass

Min Raise. HAHA

Have you ever heard of a blocking bet on the river? Use it here numb nuts.

There, hope you feel better now. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 12-04-2005, 04:36 PM
ajmargarine ajmargarine is offline
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Default Re: Someone kick me in the ass

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How do I stop being a nit?

I raise 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] to 2xBB

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Stop open-minraising for a start.
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Old 12-04-2005, 05:33 PM
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I've been working on having some balls to value bet on the river. Here is an obvious case. He doesn't have spades, unless it's QsTs, and this is highly doubtful. He doesn't have a higher set. So bet it. I'd say $30 or so.

And either limp in or raise to $2 I would say. I've found some occasional uses for preflop minraises, but EP with 99 isn't one of them.
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Old 12-04-2005, 05:36 PM
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Well, this is about the easiest value bet in the world. Really, if you're this timid, you are gonna have a hard time progressing beyond NL50.
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Old 12-04-2005, 06:59 PM
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You put him on a runner-runner flush?? Value bet this [censored].
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Old 12-04-2005, 10:07 PM
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You realize you lost $20-$30 by not betting that river if he calls, right?
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Old 12-04-2005, 10:28 PM
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Was this at pokerroom?
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