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Old 09-08-2005, 02:14 AM
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Notready, you may have the last word.


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Just one point for clarification. What I mean about "human responsibility" is that man is responsible for his guilt, not God. That I think I can establish from Scripture.
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Old 09-08-2005, 06:37 AM
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There are many doctrines that we do not understand fully. They appear to us to be unreasonable or contradictory. The appearance of contradiction is paradox and is not the same as actual contradiction. Paradox exists in the Bible but logical contradiction does not.

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And yet you are comfortable with a view of Christianity that consists of a set of interpretations that are logically contradictory internally with each other and in some cases with its core premises. I find it ironic that it is the non-believer-in-chief here, David, who has pointed out that an explanation for such contradictions is your believing in wrong interpretations of the bible. The thread I started entitled "A Question for Protestants", addresses this topic but you have yet to respond there.
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Old 09-08-2005, 08:36 AM
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that are logically contradictory internally with each other and in some cases with its core premises.


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The answer to this is in the very statement you quote.
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Old 09-08-2005, 09:27 AM
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Demonstrate a logical contradiction in the things I have said.
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Old 09-08-2005, 09:38 AM
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I didn't say there is one.
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Old 09-08-2005, 09:48 AM
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I didn't say there is one.

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Just wait til David gets hold of this.
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Old 09-08-2005, 02:45 PM
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I'm bumping this thread so it doesn't get lost in the crowd.
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Old 09-09-2005, 09:27 AM
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Actually I have thought a lot about this [does God love Satan]. I really don't know. This one is very hard for me.

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You'd be as productive thinking hard about whether Bert and Ernie were gay.
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Old 09-10-2005, 01:43 AM
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Default Couch potatoes as heroic \"receivers of God\'s blessings\" ...great

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God set out a test, and the Christians failed.

See, he instilled us with a powerful mind capable of reason, logic, compassion, etc. He gave us dominion over all the earth. And he gave us a set of lies which would betray everything good in us -- told us we were insignificant, unworthy, unable to do anything for ourselves without his help or mercy. Those who bought into this schtick (aka Christians) sickened the Almighty. But there were those who chose to ignore that hogwash and took pleasure in their god-given bodies and minds and lived as free-thinking men rather than unworthy sheep, and were good in heart not because it offered some afterlife reward but because it was the course of reason. These men lived as creators, challenging the world and the ideas around them, rather than sacrifice their given faculties for reason in favor of comfortable myths. These men passed the test and were the true receivers of God's blessings.

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A very noble picture, indeed.

Interesting, though, that most people in so-called developed nations receive 4-6 hours of instructions a day from television on exactly what to buy, what to wear, how to talk, what to believe, how to use their time, how to think (or not think), etc. and spend their lives as mindless automatons.

But the subset of them that also believe a few "myths" are the only ones squandering the "blessings" and deserving of scorn?
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