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Old 09-04-2005, 05:08 AM
pyroponic pyroponic is offline
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I put in over 200 hours of play at $3/$6 and $5/$10 to build up the BR to get up here and I want to succeed in it, but I don't want to do it at the risk of going broke.

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I don't think anyone mentioned this, but I think the OP moved up too fast, too quick. In fact, you shouldn't even be playing $10/20 6-max right now if you've ever played $3/6 6-max in the past (although that could change in the coming months).
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Old 09-04-2005, 02:06 PM
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one of my urology friends

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I find it odd that you have more than one of these

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Well let's see: 5 of my med school classmates went into this field. There were 6 residents that I worked with in training, and there are about 5 urologists I work with daily. Does that clarify?
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Old 09-04-2005, 03:27 PM
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My preflop standards haven't changed since $5/$10 and I was stealing about 36% in $5/$10 with a VPIP of rougly 24-25.

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Your VP$IP has dropped 3% despite the larger small blind? I'm not following this. Are you folding hands preflop due to shellshock tilt?
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Old 09-04-2005, 03:37 PM
StellarWind StellarWind is offline
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Good post, but it is simply not true that he is not folding many winners. 58% fold to river bet, this is insanely high and it wouldn't even work at the lower limits.

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River stats are very hard to evaluate when the rest of your game is messed up. If you are constantly cracking the whip like OP then you won't see many river bets except when you are in trouble. Everything you beat is either already folded or calling you down.
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Old 09-04-2005, 03:46 PM
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Good post, but it is simply not true that he is not folding many winners. 58% fold to river bet, this is insanely high and it wouldn't even work at the lower limits.

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River stats are very hard to evaluate when the rest of your game is messed up. If you are constantly cracking the whip like OP then you won't see many river bets except when you are in trouble. Everything you beat is either already folded or calling you down.

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This is why I asked here - http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...14&fpart=1 - whether there was any correlation between VP$P, pf raise and folded at river. Maybe I should have asked about a correlation between folded at river and aggression on other streets?
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Old 09-04-2005, 05:03 PM
Warik Warik is offline
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Your VP$IP has dropped 3% despite the larger small blind? I'm not following this. Are you folding hands preflop due to shellshock tilt?

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No... I'm fairly confident I've been getting a disproportionate number of sucky preflop cards. If I haven't changed my PF standards, nothing else (within reason) could explain the drop in VP$IP.

(But, I acknowledge that sucky cards alone is not the reason I'm losing.)
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Old 09-05-2005, 02:21 AM
StellarWind StellarWind is offline
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No... I'm fairly confident I've been getting a disproportionate number of sucky preflop cards. If I haven't changed my PF standards, nothing else (within reason) could explain the drop in VP$IP.

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I love my start charts as much as the next person.

Are you telling me that you exercise no discretion at the table with your starting standards? Everything you do is determined in advance based on position and number of limpers, etc.?

You need to work on that. A winning 5/10 6-max player should have advanced to the point where he is making some preflop decisions based on stats, reads, table atmosphere, and image.
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