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#11
08-08-2005, 06:43 PM
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Re: KK overpair call a big push?
So he was "mixing it up PF", but what was his thinking on the flop. It seems as though there is a lot of overbet & calling on a whim going on these days. 2.5:1 seems very poor given the action.
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#14
08-08-2005, 11:23 PM
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Re: KK overpair call a big push?
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By the way he described the action, I believe he thought he had a lock on the hand. [/ QUOTE ] This makes all the difference. With reads, this could go from an easy fold to an easy call.
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#15
08-08-2005, 11:41 PM
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Re: KK overpair call a big push?
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[ QUOTE ] By the way he described the action, I believe he thought he had a lock on the hand. [/ QUOTE ] This makes all the difference. With reads, this could go from an easy fold to an easy call. [/ QUOTE ] Well, maybe not an "easy call." I can't see any reason for this to turn to an easy call. Borderline at best, IMO. Just to many ways to lose with a LOT of action.
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#16
08-08-2005, 11:50 PM
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Re: KK overpair call a big push?
Well you don't even have to play in the game to put MP2 on a flush draw, and MP3 folded, so you just have to have a read of the BN as a maniac and it's an easy call. Easy.
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#18
08-08-2005, 11:59 PM
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Re: KK overpair call a big push?
Yeah, that's why I thought it was pretty -EV initially. I'm fairly certain, as is everyone else, that it is -EV without a read.
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#19
08-09-2005, 01:14 AM
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Re: KK overpair call a big push?
Er, so I don't normally consider myself math challenged, but when I read this, it looks like the pot the hero would be effectively calling (not counting the part of the pushed stack that he can't win) would be $151.65 with the hero having $75.65; that looks like 2:1, not 2.5:1. Did I miss something?
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