I'm not going to bet my set

Aaron W. · #1 08-09-2005, 03:57 PM

Villain hasn't been around very long, but he is noticably aggressive.

Paradise Poker 1/2 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero raises, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks...

tiltaholic · #2 08-09-2005, 04:02 PM

please elaborate.
i find "noticably aggressive" opponents will be more likely to bet non-club holding hands than club holding hands on the flop, using the monotone flop as a "scare flop". based on his flop bet i predict he has a jack + no club. or a six + no club. in fact, my gut feeling is that an aggro opponent with a club will be most likely to check raise the flop. (this is all based on feel, nothing empirical)

i bet the turn.

shadow29 · #3 08-09-2005, 04:04 PM

Good.

Call any river. Bet if checked to.

problem is, tilt, we can be blown off the best hand by bb.

edit- also since the board is monotone, we dont care about giving infinite odds.

car ramrod · #4 08-09-2005, 04:05 PM

I think I would bet, unless he has the A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] its going to be hard for him to raise. If you think he is aggressive enough to raise the turn, then I guess a check is good.

If he bets the river are you calling ui?

Aaron W. · #5 08-09-2005, 04:09 PM

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Ummmmm... Villain has been around for about 25 hands and he seems to be betting in many of the pots that he enters. I have a note that says he has bet-folded the turn and that a couple times it looked like he was trying a pickup bet on the turn after the flop got checked through (which is likely related to the bet-fold). That's about as much as I can say about him.

Aaron W. · #6 08-09-2005, 04:11 PM

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I think I would bet, unless he has the A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] its going to be hard for him to raise. If you think he is aggressive enough to raise the turn, then I guess a check is good.

If he bets the river are you calling ui?

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If you know why I checked it, then you can figure out what the river play is going to be if he bets into me.

tiltaholic · #7 08-09-2005, 04:13 PM

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Good.

Call any river. Bet if checked to.

problem is, tilt, we can be blown off the best hand by bb.

edit- also since the board is monotone, we dont care about giving infinite odds.

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so, calling a checkraise and calling a river bet w/o a boat is bad?

car ramrod · #8 08-09-2005, 04:16 PM

fair enough,
is there any value in betting the river if he checks, do you think he will call without a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]?

shadow29 · #9 08-09-2005, 04:17 PM

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Good.

Call any river. Bet if checked to.

problem is, tilt, we can be blown off the best hand by bb.

edit- also since the board is monotone, we dont care about giving infinite odds.

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so, calling a checkraise and calling a river bet w/o a boat is bad?

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eh?

Cheshire · #10 08-09-2005, 04:19 PM

You do not think he has a club and you hope to get him to take a stab at it on the river. This is just a guess. Would you raise the river unimproved if he bets out?