All-in After Check-Check When Blank Hits....Make the Call With 2-Pair?

play2win · #1 10-12-2005, 09:26 AM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (8 handed) converter

MP1 (t23051)
MP2 (t30210)
Hero (t7165)
Button (t20085)
SB (t7330)
BB (t8709)
UTG (t44475)
UTG+1 (t6175)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
4 folds, Hero raises to t1600, 1 fold, SB calls t1400, 1 fold.

Flop: (t3175) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t3175) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets t5705 (All-In)

HERO......?

nath · #2 10-12-2005, 09:33 AM

Call! Why would you check the flop if not to induce that bet on the turn?
MAYBE he has QJ. Can't go looking for monsters though. Does he play the nuts like that? Any reads / tendencies? More likely a naked A trying to protect its lead.

play2win · #3 10-12-2005, 10:37 AM

Yes, my intention was to induce a bluff from him. I was hoping he called me with a weaker ace.

I just wasn't expecting an all-in move.

He has played pretty loose up to this point, but usually folds before it ever gets to a showdown. More loose-passive than anything else.

DDBeast · #4 10-12-2005, 10:49 AM

Can't give a free card on that flop, but call the turn.

play2win · #5 10-12-2005, 10:56 AM

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Can't give a free card on that flop, but call the turn.

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Worrying about the possible draws? Do you bet and see if he flat calls to put him on the draw?

#6 10-12-2005, 11:04 AM

I'm a little surprised by your check on the flop, you are giving him a free card to draw to the flush and to the straight if he has a Q or J. On the other hand, he's probably thinking the same thing, and wouldn't give you a free card with any holding that beats you.

I doubt very much that he would check AK on that flop or AA, KK, TT. He might check QJ but I am skeptical of that too. Its much more likely that he's got that ace with a mid range kicker and your check on the flop makes him think you are weak. I would call

rockythecat99 · #7 10-12-2005, 11:24 AM

Checking on that flop is a no no. Having said that call the push. Sorry if he had 44.

play2win · #8 10-12-2005, 11:39 AM

Yes, I do regret it now, and as soon as he moved it.

I was short-stacked and felt that this flop was worthy of the risk to try and accumulate some chips. With some chips in the pot I was thinking smaller bets on the turn and river would be called by him with something less than 2-pair.

The turn card seemed to be a total blank...lucky for me. That is what confused me about the move. If he was holding QJ why would be make such a big bet instead of trying to extract more chips from me? So that didn't add up either.

Also I figured if he did have AK he would have pushed PF because I had been going after the blinds in late pos. 10's were a possibilty, but I firgured it wasn't likely.
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#9 10-12-2005, 11:44 AM

Don't check there. Call.

#10 10-13-2005, 03:06 AM

Because of the check on the flop, it gave us little info to what the sb is holding. like everyone else as commented, i would have bet the flop and see how he plays back. does he just call then all in on the turn? does he call, then checks the turn? does he go over the top on your flop bet? you can almost figure out a range of hands he is playing based on your flop play. you might have had the best hand afterall, but by checking the flop you put the sb on the driver seat and now you're stucking thinking did i make the correct fold.