Little hand

ArturiusX · #1 12-07-2005, 08:54 PM

4 handed, I raise UTG with A7s. All folded to the BB, who's a looser TAG, who calls. He seems generally solid though, can lay it down.

Flop is K74. He checks, I bet, he c/r's. What's my plan?

POKhER · #2 12-07-2005, 08:58 PM

Will a king raise this flop? Maybe.

A 7 will, a bluff will.

peel the flop, Give us the turn please.

ArturiusX · #3 12-07-2005, 09:07 PM

Not considering a 3-bet here?

LoaferGee12 · #4 12-07-2005, 09:08 PM

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Not considering a 3-bet here?

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I just think this lets him off the hook too easily when he has a hand that we beat. It also sucks when we are check-raised on the turn.

POKhER · #5 12-07-2005, 09:20 PM

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I considered it, but then i wondered what villan could have.

PREFLOP A strong kind would raise clearly, maybe a weak king would 3bet(But debateable due to crap position for him).

Now he probably puts you on a fairly premium hand, but is he folding if he fears AA/KK/AK/KQ/KJ/KT from you?

Maybe, However does a turn raise have more chance of a fold?

As i think we're potentially ahead of a bad bluff by BB, We have outs to improve, We have position i think i'd like to peel.

I won't argue with a 3bet on the flop, It says "I GOT A KING what you going to do now?". But if hes a tag i reckon he'll often fold it there a then(Weak king) and call down with a medium king.

Also, If hes got a 7 he's behind us and he will most likly bet turn and either Bet or check call the river.

So a 3bet seems to make us pay more when hes got a king and isnt laying down(You dont say hes weak tight). But he folds a bluff or a 7.

So i like going to the turn and seeing what card we get.

ArturiusX · #6 12-07-2005, 09:23 PM

You should start with these problems by putting a hand range for the villian, and how he'd react to certain scenarios.

POKhER · #7 12-07-2005, 10:12 PM

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You should start with these problems by putting a hand range for the villian, and how he'd react to certain scenarios.

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Thats way to logical at 2am in the morning with 6hours sleep the night before.

I put villan on a bluff, Weak king, A 7.

Most likly a bluff/7 and wanting you to maybe fold your UI overs, your QQ-77(Whats your PT stats mate?).

So i most likly call this down, Show me the turn card i call this.

kidcolin · #8 12-07-2005, 09:37 PM

He's never folding ANY king when it's 4 handed.

LoaferGee12 · #9 12-07-2005, 09:46 PM

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He's never folding ANY king when it's 4 handed.

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And now heads-up.

POKhER · #10 12-07-2005, 10:10 PM

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He's never folding ANY king when it's 4 handed.

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K2o i may give some consideration to folding depending on my read on the UTG raiser(A tag).

K2o would be a sucker to have to call down, but i didnt state he IS folding. Just may.

"Hes never folding" i disagree with strongly.