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Old 12-28-2005, 11:16 PM
Victor Victor is offline
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i like it especially if he will bluff a missed draw.
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:22 PM
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i like it especially if he will bluff a missed draw.

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That's the thing though... there was really no draw out there so I fealt my hand was either WA or WB. There was no way a free card would hurt me, other than possibly tripping up a small pocket pair.
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:07 AM
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The difference between this and the archetypal WAWB situation is he will call you with quite a bit when you are WA. He'll definitely call you with any pair, he'll definitely call with a straight draw, and he's likely to call you with K high. Plus he might call with any 2 other cards for whatever reason these guys have.

Indeed, against almost any other kind of player the turn check is standard, but this guy is very loose (you have decent value on a turn call), and passive (he's less likely to bluff the river.) As Victor said, if he will bluff a missed draw then checking the turn is better, but given the information we have I don't think he will all that much.

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There was no way a free card would hurt me

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True, this is not about hand protection; it is about value.
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:26 AM
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The difference between this and the archetypal WAWB situation is he will call you with quite a bit when you are WA. He'll definitely call you with any pair, he'll definitely call with a straight draw, and he's likely to call you with K high. Plus he might call with any 2 other cards for whatever reason these guys have.

Indeed, against almost any other kind of player the turn check is standard, but this guy is very loose (you have decent value on a turn call), and passive (he's less likely to bluff the river.) As Victor said, if he will bluff a missed draw then checking the turn is better, but given the information we have I don't think he will all that much.

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There was no way a free card would hurt me

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True, this is not about hand protection; it is about value.

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Word. I like your explanation. Your thoughts are appreciated.

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Old 12-29-2005, 12:42 AM
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I agree with Zele and think you miss value against a player this loose by checking
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Old 12-29-2005, 04:58 AM
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there are quite a few gutterballs out there but, yea, i was wrong when i said "missed draw." i meant that he may bluff any 2 cards.

i like your line of thought on the fact that no pairs will hurt you here.
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