AK hand 200+15

[Nick B.]

I think there are two debatable streets here. Preflop I am calling 150 into a pot of 400 and I HAVE POSITION!!!! I thought that was a pretty standard call but another 2+2er I talked to thought it was close.


***** Hand History for Game 2757165720 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $200 Buy-in + $15 Entry Fee Trny:15972733 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Thursday, September 22, 18:38:56 EDT 2005
Table Table 13292 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: BC_fish ( $953 )
Seat 2: ANNAMAGANDA ( $858 )
Seat 3: Shatoufee ( $1075 )
Seat 4: MainFish ( $375 )
Seat 6: Spot81 ( $2565 )
Seat 7: erpoker ( $1152 )
Seat 8: EdMoney111 ( $1310 )
Seat 9: drock56 ( $562 )
Seat 10: TEPop84 ( $1150 )
Trny:15972733 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TEPop84 [ Ac Kd ]
EdMoney111 calls [30].
drock56 folds.
TEPop84 raises [100].
BC_fish folds.
ANNAMAGANDA folds.
Shatoufee folds.
MainFish folds.
Spot81 folds.
erpoker raises [220].
EdMoney111 folds.
TEPop84 calls [150].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8d, 9d, 4d ]
erpoker is all-In [902]
TEPop84 is all-In [900]

Here is where I thought the debate was. The pot odds are pretty big almost 1.6:1 and I think my hand runs pretty well against the hands that a person could reraise out of the bb. I only have the second nut flush draw, but he didn't play it like he has the nut flush draw unless he has AdK. I can discount AdA cause I really doubt he would play it like that, even though I would be heavily [censored] if he did. Do you think the flop call was good or [censored]?

[curtains]

I think the flop call is probably correct. If he has something like KK you are almost a coin flip (I can call it a coin flip since people routinely call AK vs QQ a coinflip preflop, and the odds in this case are about the same... 44%-56%). Even against AA you will win over 1/3 times and you are a favorite against QQ.

[citanul]

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Preflop I am calling 150 into a pot of 400 and I HAVE POSITION!!!! I thought that was a pretty standard call ...

I think my hand runs pretty well against the hands that a person could reraise out of the bb.

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What hands do you think those are?

citanul

[microbet]

I don't know, but my thoughts are he has KK or AA with no diamond or JJ or QQ with or without.

[Nick B.]

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Preflop I am calling 150 into a pot of 400 and I HAVE POSITION!!!! I thought that was a pretty standard call ...

I think my hand runs pretty well against the hands that a person could reraise out of the bb.

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What hands do you think those are?

citanul

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Probably TT-AA, AQ+. If he has TT_QQ I am either a coinflip or small favorite depending if he has a diamond. AQs I am a huge favorite against cause I doubt he would push if he flopped a flush. AdQx I am still a favorite over. AdAx is also unlikely to be a flop push. AA with no diamonds has me in bad shape but not awful (2-1). KK and I am a little better than a 3:2 dog.

[citanul]

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Preflop I am calling 150 into a pot of 400 and I HAVE POSITION!!!! I thought that was a pretty standard call ...

I think my hand runs pretty well against the hands that a person could reraise out of the bb.

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What hands do you think those are?

citanul

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Probably TT-AA, AQ+.

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Wow, that's looser than the standards that I give the random player for making a minireraise when they're IN position, and this guy did it out of position. Are my thoughts just totally way off?

citanul

[curtains]

I would expect a tighter range, but you never know when someone is being crazy.

[JJKillian]

I would also throw in 8's or 9's. My 200 experience is limited at best but I would imagine the aggressive play at this lvl is even more so than the 100's. A set here wouldn't shock me.

JJ

[Newt_Buggs]

I like the way that you played the hand.

I would probably fold pf against someone I knew was good, but based on this guys prophecy numbers he probably isn't a solid $215 player:
Games played 248
Wins 74 (29.84%)
Losses 174 (70.16%)
Average Buy-In $61.33
Players with better winning percentage 367354
Players with worse winning percentage 343648
$200 Table: 11 wins / 24 losses / 31.43% wins
$100 Table: 6 wins / 25 losses / 19.35% wins
$50 Table: 14 wins / 29 losses / 32.56% wins
$30 Table: 20 wins / 41 losses / 32.79% wins
$20 Table: 12 wins / 24 losses / 33.33% wins
$10 Table: 11 wins / 29 losses / 27.5% wins
$5 Table: 0 wins / 2 losses / 0% wins

bash prophecy all you want, but very few solid players will have the above stats and solid players are going to reraise here with stronger hands on average than worse players.

[kyro]

I play it exactly like you. I very rarely put in a third raise with AK and I think you have odds to call here.