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Old 12-06-2005, 11:22 PM
mpfree mpfree is offline
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Default PP $5+1: Embarassing bubble fold

Ok, looking back I think I should have made a standard raise and let go if I faced resistance - is that the correct approach?

Does anyone push here because it becomes difficult to play this w. overcards on the board?

Button is tight, BB is relatively loose and called a couple of large all-ins w. marginal hands (and sucked out)

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero (t2805)
Button (t1607)
SB (t1474)
BB (t2114)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666"> Hero folds, 1 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.
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Old 12-06-2005, 11:25 PM
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Default Re: PP $5+1: Embarassing bubble fold

It's not as terrible as you think. I sometimes fold this acutally. Depends on my table.
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Old 12-06-2005, 11:48 PM
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Default Re: PP $5+1: Embarassing bubble fold

I don't think this fold is that bad. I'd probably raise 3xBB against most opponents but since I will fold to a push or big reraise I don't know if it is a clearly superior option.

It depends on your opponents. If they are tight it is a pretty bad fold.
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Old 12-06-2005, 11:51 PM
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Default Re: PP $5+1: Embarassing bubble fold

Depends on the table. If you are willing to fold to a reraise, I think you should minraise. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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Old 12-06-2005, 11:53 PM
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Default Re: PP $5+1: Embarassing bubble fold

Thanks for the responses. I started doubting the fold because the folks here say to get fairly aggressive on the bubble.

I guess if I short stacked, it would have been an easy push. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't playing to conservative with a chip lead.
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Old 12-06-2005, 11:56 PM
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Default Re: PP $5+1: Embarassing bubble fold

This is clearly a mistake in my opinion. It's not an earth shattering mistake. But in this spot, you must make a standard raise and take those blinds. I'm also not so sure if im folding to a push of one of the shorter stacks. I would have to take the player into consideration.
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Old 12-07-2005, 02:33 AM
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Default Re: PP $5+1: Embarassing bubble fold

Why is this not a push? Or why is pushing not as good as raising or folding?
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Old 12-07-2005, 02:39 AM
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Default Re: PP $5+1: Embarassing bubble fold

Hero has almost 20xBB. Pushing is overdoing it.
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:23 AM
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Default Re: PP $5+1: Embarassing bubble fold

The effective BB is only 14 though. Pushing isn't that bad. I wouldn't do it personally, unless BB was particularly tricky (i.e. I felt he would come over the top of any raise I made). And of course sometimes I'd fold if he's really loose anyway.
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:34 AM
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Default Re: PP $5+1: Embarassing bubble fold

I'd make it 400 here all the time, but I doubt folding is a massive mistake. Just a little boo boo that you don't even notice. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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