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Old 08-23-2005, 02:46 PM
Bill Poker Bill Poker is offline
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Default Heads-up: push or fold?

Heads up:

Party 20+2. blind 200/400, I had A3s with 4150 on BB (vallian had 3850), vallian raise to 1000,
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Old 08-23-2005, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: Heads-up: push or fold?

Ready? Here it comes!!!!


It depends.
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Old 08-23-2005, 02:50 PM
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Default Re: Heads-up: push or fold?

Can you give us more info on what the HU match with "vallian" has been like up to this point?
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Old 08-23-2005, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: Heads-up: push or fold?

1. I dont have much FE so it is unlikely to push him out.
2. I am either slightly ahead (60% againt 2 unpaired middle cards), or 33% against middle pair or Ax (X>7). i would assign 70% to unpaired middle cards, and 30% to middle pair or Ax or anything else, so it seems a very close call.
3. would you change mind if i had Kx instead? x<10.
4. maybe real question is, would you flip a coin when both of you have 10BB?
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Old 08-23-2005, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: Heads-up: push or fold?

I was 4 tabling, so I did not have much read on him, but he was not too out of line. and this is the first hand HU.

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Can you give us more info on what the HU match with "vallian" has been like up to this point?

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Old 08-23-2005, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: Heads-up: push or fold?


Assuming you two just sat down at a HU match, with you holding a slight chip edge, and the blinds at 200/400, I'd likely fold this.

There are actually more reasons to fold than push/call IMO. One being your assumption that you can outplay him during this abbreviated match. For me to push this, I would have to be nearly certain he would fold. I personally see no reason to push otherwise...where you might be a SLIGHT favorite at best.

Calling & pushing the flop is an option (better than pushing PF perhaps)...but again, it requires some faith in a certain degree of good fortune.
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Old 08-23-2005, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: Heads-up: push or fold?

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1. I dont have much FE so it is unlikely to push him out.


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I don't think this is true at all. He has alot back to him to call. Having said that it depends alot on your read, but my deafult is to push this.
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Old 08-23-2005, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: Heads-up: push or fold?

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1. I dont have much FE so it is unlikely to push him out.


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I don't think this is true at all. He has alot back to him to call. Having said that it depends alot on your read, but my deafult is to push this.

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maybe i give him too much credit, but, unless it is a total bluff (2 unpaired/unsuited/unconnected low cards), I dont think he would fold to my push. he had 3:5 odds to call.
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Old 08-23-2005, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: Heads-up: push or fold?

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Assuming you two just sat down at a HU match, with you holding a slight chip edge, and the blinds at 200/400, I'd likely fold this.

There are actually more reasons to fold than push/call IMO. One being your assumption that you can outplay him during this abbreviated match. For me to push this, I would have to be nearly certain he would fold. I personally see no reason to push otherwise...where you might be a SLIGHT favorite at best.

Calling & pushing the flop is an option (better than pushing PF perhaps)...but again, it requires some faith in a certain degree of good fortune.

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thank for reply. with BB=400, I guess folding is not a very bad option here if you think you can outplay you opp.
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Old 08-23-2005, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: Heads-up: push or fold?

Well I think it would be a good push here, but I think a call would be too. I got to loooove suited ace [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

edit: and yes, the blinds seem to be small that a fold is good also [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] it's hard, go with your instincts.
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