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Old 11-03-2005, 10:06 PM
catlover catlover is offline
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Default Re: hand vs. Angelina

Check and hope you're good.

When you bet and get called, I think you are beat at least half the time. Sure Angeline could have a 2 or a 6, but an A or a 9 is more likely, given that Angelina didn't fold preflop.
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Old 11-03-2005, 10:08 PM
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Default Re: hand vs. Angelina

From what I've heard of angelina I don't think there's anyway he/she is folding an Ace or 9. I don't think a 9 would've played this way and an ace would not hesistate on the turn.

It could possibly be one of those plays where he knows if he checkraises the flop he may not get a fold from you while he feels there's a good chance you'll fold without an ace if he takes the check/call flop and donk turn line. When a good thinking player that knows I'm a thinking player takes the check/call flop and donk turn line it usually seems awfully suscipious more than it would a real hand on a board like this.

Although your not geting a better hand to fold, I wouldn't be surprised if he/she folded or showed something like 6d8d. The metagame aspect and the fact that you do not want to show this down incase he missed would be a good enough reason to bet this IMO.
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Old 11-03-2005, 10:42 PM
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Default Re: hand vs. Angelina

I would fire a bet here. I have played in this game a little, and I think this is a 910 type of hand alot. It all depends on your image though as I think she/he calls if you have gotten out of line at all.
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Old 11-03-2005, 10:49 PM
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Default Re: hand vs. Angelina

I think i check here, i dont see better hands folding or worse hands calling.
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Old 11-03-2005, 11:04 PM
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Default Re: hand vs. Angelina

This is a clear value check. Angelina is not calling that turn bet with the intention of folding for one bet on the river and he doesn't bet that turn on a draw either.
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Old 11-03-2005, 11:08 PM
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Default Re: hand vs. Angelina

Does everyone like the turn raise here?
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Old 11-03-2005, 11:08 PM
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Does everyone like the turn raise here?

[/ QUOTE ]yes.
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Old 11-03-2005, 11:13 PM
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I do. Why would you not raise that turn card?
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Old 11-03-2005, 11:21 PM
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Default Re: hand vs. Angelina

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I do. Why would you not raise that turn card?

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Because i think that turn donk most likely comes from a made hand that's not folding, I wouldn't be thrilled about getting reraised, because all I have is eight high and diamonds/spades raising here is too transparent? Just listing some arguments, I can definitely see reasons to raise here as well, but don't think it's clear cut.
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Old 11-03-2005, 11:25 PM
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I do. Why would you not raise that turn card?

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Because i think that turn donk most likely comes from a made hand that's not folding, I wouldn't be thrilled about getting reraised, because all I have is eight high and diamonds/spades raising here is too transparent? Just listing some arguments, I can definitely see reasons to raise here as well, but don't think it's clear cut.

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I agree, the donk bet screams of a hand that isn't folding.
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