Hand from Stars 500k, do you call preflop? Lesbian penguins links !!

[sirio11]

I'm interested in the decision preflop, your opinions and reasons behing them. At this point, there are 95 players left out of 3450, and the average stack is about 90k.

Thanks in advance.

PokerStars Game #2992101961: Tournament #14113646, Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (4000/8000) - 2005/11/06 - 21:01:02 (ET)
Table '14113646 102' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: ambi (195197 in chips)
Seat 3: dafuzball (13970 in chips)
Seat 4: squidzz (33918 in chips)
Seat 5: zaratusa (141889 in chips)
Seat 6: sirio11 (69114 in chips)
Seat 7: Karthur (127103 in chips)
Seat 8: gearhead (45900 in chips)
Seat 9: henrik777 (59621 in chips)
ambi: posts the ante 400
dafuzball: posts the ante 400
squidzz: posts the ante 400
zaratusa: posts the ante 400
sirio11: posts the ante 400
Karthur: posts the ante 400
gearhead: posts the ante 400
henrik777: posts the ante 400
sirio11: posts small blind 4000
Karthur: posts big blind 8000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sirio11 [7d 6c]
gearhead: folds
henrik777: folds
ambi: folds
dafuzball: raises 5570 to 13570 and is all-in
squidzz: folds
zaratusa: calls 13570
sirio11: calls 9570
Karthur: calls 5570
*** FLOP *** [6d 5d 3h]
sirio11: bets 55144 and is all-in
Karthur: calls 55144
zaratusa: folds
*** TURN *** [6d 5d 3h] [7h]
*** RIVER *** [6d 5d 3h 7h] [Td]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
sirio11: shows [7d 6c] (two pair, Sevens and Sixes)
Karthur: shows [Kd 8d] (a flush, King high)
Karthur collected 110288 from side pot
dafuzball: shows [As Qh] (high card Ace)
Karthur collected 57480 from main pot

I'd like this much more if your stack were bigger and/or you were closing the action. It still may be +EV though.

[Exitonly]

i think thats a fold PF... if you get paid off for your whole stack when you hit, you'd be getting 10:1... and i dont think you're going to hit the flop good enough. And even when you hit the flop you're not out of danger (See: result)

[Apathy]

I like the PF call, you are likely to have a pretty live hand and if you pick up a draw you will have a more then liklely chance of getting to see free cards.

Also given your below average stack size this looks like a good/cheap way to gamble to try to win a big pot.

Since you act first on the flop you are also presented with some very interesting first one in usually wins type situations where you can play a large pot with a small percentage of your stack against an all in player who could have a wide range of hands.


And where the [censored] are those sweet lesbien penguin pics?

[gumpzilla]

I came for the penguins. I'm disappointed.

I'm not wild about calling preflop here. The stacks aren't deep enough to make the admittedly attractive pot odds all that relevant against two other players who will still have a stack, particularly since even if you move them out on a random garbage flop you're probably still a dog to the guy who's already all-in.

If you're going to play this hand, I think a squeeze here to get out the button is probably the way to go, since your odds if you can isolate against the stack that's in are definitely going to be lucrative enough. If you think button (and/or BB) are unlikely to fold, then I think folding here is the way to go.

[MLG]

the problem here is that you dont have enough to make the call based solely on implied odds, and your semi-bluffing equity goes way down given that the flop will be contested three handed. I fold.

[woodguy]

What was your read on the button? (what's he flat calling with here?)

His flat call, along with the AI, makes me think if I hit a pair, it may be no good anyhow.

That, and you are not closing the PF action, although with button involved, the BB has to have a very good hand to raise here.

I think too often you make your hand, only to be second best.

I do saliviate at the size of the pot vs. the cost of entering the pot though.

Interesting spot.

I think I'd rather flop an OESD than a pair so I'd have a handfull of live outs if my push gets called.

Regards,
Woodguy

edit:



Apparantly these penguins are gay.

The pot odds are quite good, but the likelihood of getting paid if you hit hard is not so much, due to the AI player.

It's a close call, and as an earlier post said it is likely influenced by my read of the button call. If button is apt to call with marginal hands, I will call here. If button is more likely to call with a monster to try to induce more in the pot, then I fold.

Man, it gets old saying "it depends".

[beenben]

Don't call an all-in with unsuited connectors, 7 high.

[gasoltub]

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I came for the penguins. I'm disappointed.


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