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Old 12-07-2004, 09:22 PM
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Default QJo - middle pair heads up

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: (5 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

River: (6.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 8.50 BB, between SB and Hero.</font>

i had been showing down some good hands prior to this, so i figure most people were folding to my raises.

maybe when he bet on the flop, i should have credited him with a solid hand.
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Old 12-07-2004, 09:25 PM
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Default Re: AQo - middle pair heads up

Did you have AQo or QJo?
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Old 12-07-2004, 09:28 PM
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Default Re: AQo - middle pair heads up

He said he had middle pair so he couldn't have AQ, otherwise he would have top two pair then. I assume the subject is just a typo.
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Old 12-07-2004, 09:40 PM
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Default Re: AQo - middle pair heads up

sorry, yea typo. fixed it now.
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Old 12-07-2004, 09:41 PM
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Default Re: QJo - middle pair heads up

PF raise is crazy. Call the flop here. Fold the turn if he bets again. The board pair cuts your outs by 3/5 if he has an ace.

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Old 12-07-2004, 09:41 PM
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Default Re: QJo - middle pair heads up

I don't like the PFR with QJo. I'd fold.
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Old 12-07-2004, 10:44 PM
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Default Re: QJo - middle pair heads up

I would probably just fold on the flop, thinking SB probably has top pair, and I don't want to draw to five outs in this relatively small pot. (He did bet into an ace after you raised preflop, after all.) Possibly he hopes the ace scares you and is taking a stab, but I wouldn't like the chances that that's the case enough to continue.

If you think you can push your opponent off of a weak ace on the flop, then that's one reason to raise here. But I don't think most 0.5/1 players fold top pair very often.
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Old 12-07-2004, 11:03 PM
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Default Does anyone else fold QJo preflop in this position?

I never like raising with this hand and I would probably fold it from this position in a 9-person game.
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Old 12-07-2004, 11:04 PM
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Default Re: Does anyone else fold QJo preflop in this position?

I routinely fold QJo. I play it sometimes in late position and also in the blinds, but that's about it.
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Old 12-07-2004, 11:08 PM
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Default Re: Does anyone else fold QJo preflop in this position?

This should be a routine fold in EP, never a raise.

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