River call...

krishanleong · #1 11-22-2005, 10:47 AM

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (5 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG folds, CO raises, Button folds, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero raises, CO calls.

River: (8.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

Villian is 64/7/1.1/49 over 303. Nothing out of the ordinary so far. Thanks,

Krishan

spydog · #2 11-22-2005, 10:51 AM

3-bet the flop. You might get capped, which is nice. Plus, you can't be sure he isn't raising a flush draw for a free card.

Fold the river. Ugh.

krishanleong · #3 11-22-2005, 10:55 AM

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3-bet the flop. You might get capped, which is nice. Plus, you can't be sure he isn't raising a flush draw for a free card.

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Noone takes free cards. 3-betting to get capped has merit.

Krishan

Wynton · #4 11-22-2005, 11:06 AM

I'm not sure I like 3-betting the flop. Won't that make it more difficult to get subsequent bets (like the turn c/r)?

Is bet/folding the river ridiculous, considering your second pair just got counterfeited?

Rubeskies · #5 11-22-2005, 01:45 PM

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Noone takes free cards.

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I disagree with this sentiment.

krishanleong · #6 11-22-2005, 01:46 PM

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What % of the time do you think someone doesn't follow up with a turn bet at 10/20 short when they have a flush draw barring really scary turn cards.

Krishan

ggbman · #7 11-22-2005, 01:47 PM

Your flop play is fine. The river is also a fold, nh.

Rubeskies · #8 11-22-2005, 02:20 PM

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What % of the time do you think someone doesn't follow up with a turn bet at 10/20 short when they have a flush draw barring really scary turn cards.

Krishan

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Maybe he has a flush draw, maybe he has 78 maybe he just has a single pair. Or maybe he has a weak A high that he wants to get to showdown cheaply with. The bottom line is people play poker poorly and strangely and I've seen my share of people taking free cards for correct and incorrect reasons in my time at 10/20.

I'm not saying your line is bad, I'm just saying people do take free card, even HU.

MAxx · #9 11-22-2005, 02:34 PM

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Noone takes free cards.

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What % of the time do you think someone doesn't follow up with a turn bet at 10/20 short when they have a flush draw barring really scary turn cards.

Krishan

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It's pretty freaking rare heads-up at 10-20. This is one thing I know to be true. If you can digest this, then you will be confident that you can profitably cr turns that you'd otherwise be concerned of giving freebies. I don't take a freebie heads up, in the majority of headup cases at this limit...do you, if so-why?

To answer K-'s question, I'd say less than 10% of the time....maybe closer to less than 5%. And the guy who would consider this is usually new to the limit and not as used to the higher % of heads-up contests from his previous lower limit.

Edit: I'm specifically talking of floped flush draws that raise with position on the flop at 1020.

Subfallen · #10 11-22-2005, 07:42 PM

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3-bet the flop. You might get capped, which is nice. Plus, you can't be sure he isn't raising a flush draw for a free card.

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Noone takes free cards. 3-betting to get capped has merit.

Krishan

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I take free cards a lot. Is there a reason not to?