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Old 11-25-2005, 06:09 PM
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First in raises…

Second in 3 bets…

I cap in the CO with red tens…

Button calls…

Us four play a hand. All players here are solid, a bit agro, no retards though.

Flop comes AKQ all hearts. Checks to me, I bet. Everyone calls.

Turn is a heart. Checks to me, I bet. Button calls… others fold.

River is a heart. I bet, button raises, I 3 bet, Button caps, I call…


This was online with a 4 bet cap, had this been live how many bets do you go?
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Old 11-25-2005, 06:15 PM
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You think he's going crazy with the 9h? I'n not really happy he's capping.
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Old 11-25-2005, 06:16 PM
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Default Re: thinking....

how does a solid player who coldcalled 4 bets preflop possibly have the 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] here?
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Old 11-25-2005, 06:18 PM
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Default Re: thinking....

well, lets think about this. What hand does he play like this? He is a winning and thinking player.

JJh, sure.. but I would expect a flop or turn raise here?
99h seems to fit...

What else is in his hand range? AJo? Doubt it...
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Old 11-25-2005, 06:20 PM
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Default Re: thinking....

he played the hand exactly like JJ[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] - why would he ever raise in the hand? you have flopped a set so often here, why would he raise?

would he even coldcall preflop with 99?

edit: i missed that the turn was a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]. yeah you would really expect the nuts to raise here, since he could expect calls from you guys with your top twos and sets. i guess now my only argument for JJh being more likely is his preflop coldcall of the cap. i am still weary of the river 3-bet.
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Old 11-25-2005, 06:21 PM
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Default Re: thinking....

I would have called at 4, do you think he's capping the 3rd nut (X9h), I don't, and I certainly don't think he's capping with a non-flush. What hands are likely to be okay with cold-calling 4 bets that hit this 4-flush board? JJ comes to mind since we have TT.
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Old 11-25-2005, 06:21 PM
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Plus there's two players behind him that he doesn't want to fold on the turn.
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Old 11-25-2005, 06:25 PM
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Default Re: thinking....

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well, lets think about this. What hand does he play like this? He is a winning and thinking player.

JJh, sure.. but I would expect a flop or turn raise here?
99h seems to fit...

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JJh makes perfect sense. The hand is 4-way on the turn, he is looking for overcalls from weaker flushes. They fold though, so he goes to town on the river.

It makes waaay more sense for a winning player to not raise JJ on the flop and turn, then it does for a winning player to cap the river with a 9h.
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Old 11-25-2005, 06:26 PM
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Default Re: thinking....

this game is very aggro... NO ONE is folding that turn... esp with a 2/3/ and 4 bet preflop and then all that paint on the board (think sets and 2pairs). He has the best hand here (if he does have the Jh) and everyone is calling.

yes, i know they did fold... which was shocking to me. both of the guys said after the hand they figured their 4 outs were no good....
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Old 11-25-2005, 06:27 PM
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You should just call the river check raise. If you won this hand you got extremely lucky.
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