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Fold 62 49.60%
Complete 38 30.40%
Raise 25 20.00%
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Old 10-01-2005, 05:10 PM
edge edge is offline
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Default Re: Do you take the coin-flip?

That's an incredibly easy call. Not only is it slightly profitable, it's great for your image and lets you build a double-stack if you win. There are pretty much no drawbacks (variance I guess, if you are a wuss), so I don't see how anyone could advocate a fold.
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Old 10-01-2005, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: Do you take the coin-flip?

I'm literally shocked by how many people would fold in this impossible situation.

If the point of the question is to get people to think about how risk averse/risk loving they may be, I've got a better hypothetical.

I offer you 300K on a coinflip. Heads you win, tails you lose. OR, I'll give 75K right now for nothing. You forfeit your right to the 75k if you take the coin flip. Do you flip the coin?
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Old 10-01-2005, 05:17 PM
Sifmole Sifmole is offline
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Default Re: Do you take the coin-flip?

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With no money, or close to no money, in the pot to begin with theres no way you cant take that gamble. Way too much for way too little.

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What a solidly horrible first post.
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Old 10-01-2005, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: Do you take the coin-flip?

How can anyone even say no. It's an extremely easy call.

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wow, it is pretty ridiculous how many people say yes
take those noobs money some other hands, dont just play base on luck, this is retarded

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This isn't a tournament. If you lose this hand, it doesn't mean you won't have another chance to take those "noobs" money. And if there are other "noobs" sitting with deep stacks, the benefits of calling are even greater.
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Old 10-01-2005, 05:51 PM
Neil Stevens Neil Stevens is offline
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Default Re: Do you take the coin-flip?

The pot *isn't* empty. It has your opponent's whole stack in it.
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Old 10-01-2005, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: Do you take the coin-flip?

Lets say its $1/$2. That puts $203 in the pot for you to call. Your 200 for 203. You favored by 1-4%, assuming the guy is telling the truth. In a tournament id go for it, not in a cash game. Think about this, it would never happen #1, 2. in a 1/2 cash game and someone raises up to just 45 its a huge raise(nevermind 200) you toss your 55 and pay no attention to the stupid head games.
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Old 10-01-2005, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: Do you take the coin-flip?

you're favored by more than 1-2% if you have 55 up against AK

the only reason you should not be calling this is if your bankroll cannot take the short-term variance
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Old 10-01-2005, 07:51 PM
SmackinYaUp SmackinYaUp is offline
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Default Re: Do you take the coin-flip?

In the long run, this won't make much of a difference. You're gaining what, 5BB per call?

For some people, that 5bb can be made up in a much easier, smaller hand with a fresh mind, not after losing a stack.

If you factor in rake, if you tilt when you lose your stack half the time, and stress then you might be saving yourself some money by folding.

If you're a ruthless terminator, armchair poker quarterback, or don't give a damn about swings then the call becomes easier than my friend's mom.
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Old 10-01-2005, 07:56 PM
wdeadwyler wdeadwyler is offline
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Default Re: Do you take the coin-flip?

Now THIS is a worthy question. I dunno about this one. A guaranteed 75k is nice, but my ev for the coinflop is 150k. I guess im talking the coinflop for 300k, if it was 125k id, prob take the coinflip. What is the equation to solve for how rish adverse I am if we assume 125k?
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Old 10-01-2005, 10:56 PM
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Default Re: Do you take the coin-flip?

So easy. I flip.

If I needed money badly right now, I'd probably take the sure $75k.

And yeah. 32% fold = so stupid.
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