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Old 12-20-2005, 01:12 PM
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19/3 is not a rock.
i call on the turn, since you have somewhere between 3 and 10 outs.

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Do you really think the overcard outs can be any good?
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Old 12-20-2005, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: Got married to my preflop raise, where should I get a divorce?

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Do you really think the overcard outs can be any good?

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Absolutely. It would be much different if this player raised preflop.
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Old 12-20-2005, 01:22 PM
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19/3 is not a rock.
i call on the turn, since you have somewhere between 3 and 10 outs.

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Do you really think the overcard outs can be any good?

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yeah. i'd discount them, but yeah.
mainly because AA-KK 3-bet pf, and QQ probably does too.
i can see JJ and TT cold calling...
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Old 12-20-2005, 01:59 PM
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Perhaps it was his pfraise of 3, I wasn't sure he'd 3bet QQ, or even KK preflop (more likely though) - of course, I don't know how many hands that is - If you can give yourself more than four outs here, you're definitely swinging it to call the turn raise - I'm also looking at this low aggression factor and wondering if he would raise w/ just top pair here.

I could be reading too much into this, or reading these stats plain wrong.
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:09 PM
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yeah. i'd discount them, but yeah.
mainly because AA-KK 3-bet pf, and QQ probably does too.


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It is Prima, not Party. Max VPT-25%!
I raised first in from M2, perhaps I was eager stealing.
There is no need to reraise with AA or KK in such position, because you will definetely drive out ALL other opponents.
The main plan in this situiation -cc to invite additional players and to raise on turn.
On Party with VPT 30-40 reraising with AA is obligatory, but on Prima I see lots of AA, KK just calling, cause usually it is maximum 3 players, that see flop.
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Old 12-20-2005, 05:34 PM
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the pf raise is correct.

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There is no need to reraise with AA or KK in such position, because you will definetely drive out ALL other opponents.The main plan in this situiation -cc to invite additional players and to raise on turn.
On Party with VPT 30-40 reraising with AA is obligatory, but on Prima I see lots of AA, KK just calling, cause usually it is maximum 3 players, that see flop.

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this is incorrect.
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Old 12-21-2005, 09:19 AM
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Usual scenario with 3-d raise with AA after the stealer on Prima 0.5/1 -1/2.
Everyone folds to MP3 who raised with J9s (there is lot of stealing on Prima with such hands).
CO reraised, blind folds, MP3 calls.
Flop K65.
MP3 checks, CO bets, MP3 folds or folds on the turn.
With my AA, which comes 1/220, I get maximum 2BB. Congratulations!
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