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Old 09-28-2005, 01:28 AM
Allinlife Allinlife is offline
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Default Re: Ptracker question on Position Stats

i thought +BB was impossible

please keep us updated when you hit 50k cero

detailed stats post also welcome [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 09-28-2005, 07:00 AM
KaneKungFu123 KaneKungFu123 is offline
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Default Re: Ptracker question on Position Stats

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I'm about -0.07 in the BB, -0.11 in the SB.

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im -.08 in bb and -.05 in sb [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
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Old 09-28-2005, 08:34 AM
n1bd n1bd is offline
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Default Re: Ptracker question on Position Stats

It's normal to be a loser in the blinds when you include the money you post.

But isn't it unusual that cero's sb numbers are *so much* worse than his bb numbers?
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Old 09-28-2005, 10:28 AM
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Default Re: Ptracker question on Position Stats

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I'm about -0.07 in the BB, -0.11 in the SB.

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im -.08 in bb and -.05 in sb [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

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fu. i filtered out hu i think.

if i don't im -0.04 in bb but my sb is still poor [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

ps. this was only over 57k hands anyway (since the 5th of this month, gg)
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Old 09-28-2005, 10:41 AM
cero_z cero_z is offline
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Default Re: Ptracker question on Position Stats

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But isn't it unusual that cero's sb numbers are *so much* worse than his bb numbers?

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This is what I was getting at. Gambling is hard. When I first looked at the stats, I thought, "Holy [censored]! Tighten up in the SB, you idiot!" Then I thought it over, and realized it would be very hard to be a long-term winner from there if you include the amount posted. Still, it seems like it couldn't hurt to be tighter from the small blind. I will check back when I get some more hands under my belt.
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Old 09-28-2005, 12:53 PM
Leptyne Leptyne is offline
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Default Re: Ptracker question on Position Stats

I don't have any stats to post since I'm still a student of the game. My studies have taught me that the blinds are losing positions. One thing that is burned into my brain is the warning that "it's almost always always a mistake to call raises from the blinds".

The other thing I have picked up from 2+2 is that I now complete in the SB with any two as long as there are 2 limpers in front.

Comments from good players about positive stats UTG remind me to continue to study how strong players use position to their advantage.
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Old 09-28-2005, 05:00 PM
Dr. StrangeloveX Dr. StrangeloveX is offline
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Default Re: Ptracker question on Position Stats

If you are positive in the BB than you can limp any hand from any position and still be profitable overall.
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Old 09-28-2005, 05:47 PM
OneCentRob OneCentRob is offline
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Default Re: Ptracker question on Position Stats

I am amazed that you are winning in the BB. My guess is that this is just a statistical blip which will correct itself after another 20k hands.

If you can make a profit from the BB, that means you should be playing every pot, limping or raising with any hand from every position. Clearly this would be madness. Either you are a poker genius of supernatural powers, or this is a blip. My guess would be that you have won a few giant pots from BB when you have hit monsters, which has distorted your stats. You should be able to see this from analysing your data. Are there a couple of really big pots that stand out? If you subtract your top 10 and bottom 10 pots from BB are you still in profit? My guess would be not. After 20k hands, it is surprising how a couple of really big pots can still have a signifiacnt impact on your stats.

I would be surprised if many people have a pefect correlation between position and win rate after 20k hands.
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Old 09-28-2005, 05:51 PM
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Default Re: Ptracker question on Position Stats

I would be surprised if many people have a pefect correlation between position and win rate after 100k hands.
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Old 09-28-2005, 06:31 PM
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I would be surprised if many people have a pefect correlation between position and win rate after 100k hands.

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Agreed
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