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Old 07-30-2003, 05:14 PM
DJA DJA is offline
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PokerStars $100 buy-in NLHE (blinds 1-2). I have around $200, and I am dealt AA in late position. UTG+1 an aggressive player, makes it 10 to go after UTG limps, 1 caller in between for $10 and I make it $50 to go. UTG+1 calls middle position folds... ~$110 in the pot.

Flop comes K high rags, and my opponent checks. What would you do here? I have ~$150 remaining. I bet all-in and am called like lightning by KK... Again, I can't even blame this guy for anything, he played the same way I would have. I may often just have reraised all-in preflop with KK against many opponents.

Lately, I would be making a lot more money if I wasn't getting big pre-flop hands, they seem to be costing me. That is why I am looking at my post flop play... but really I can't see a way to change the results in these short stack situations.
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Old 07-30-2003, 05:43 PM
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I think you played this hand fine.
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Old 07-30-2003, 10:59 PM
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well, there's $23 in the pot before your raise. Question being, how aggressive are you generally? If you raise a lot, I'd almost be tempted to push in. Your raise committed half your stack and pretty much gives your hand away, so at worst the guy would drop when an A hits (assuming KK and down for initial raiser, thinking you have AA KK AK etc.) I'd be tempted to push in here rather than make the large raise, or smoothcall and try to lose. Then again, I haven't had a whole lot of success in cash games.
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Old 07-30-2003, 11:11 PM
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Call me greedy, but I want this guy to call my bet. In this particular hand I could have went all-in and I almost guarantee the KK comes with me. This guy isn't laying down KK before the flop.

However, I am not going to bet $200 preflop hoping someone is going to make a huge mistake and call... but maybe I am going to start playing like this because I am getting worked lately.

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Old 07-31-2003, 12:44 AM
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Granted, AA is my favorite hand to commit 25% of the chips preflop, but waht do you consider a good win with them? 10X the BB sounds reasonable to me.
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Old 07-31-2003, 10:41 AM
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The big blind here is $1. I want to win $100. Sure winning $10 is not a bad win, but I got the guy to put in $50 when he was a 4:1 dog. This is obviously much easier to do when the player has KK and you have AA because if it were the other way around you would probably see me put in my money as a 4:1 dog.

But to answer your question, I am generally unsatisfied winning 10X BB with AA. Maybe I should be, but I am not.

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Old 07-31-2003, 05:04 PM
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I offten se AA missplayed in table stakes NL games. You did not missplay that hand at all. Offten I like to raise with hands like AA, KK, and QQ (in postion) based not just on the BB, but also what's in the pot, and stack size I have, and am up against. My theory is, if I raise over 10% of my stack, or the next biggest stack, then I will allways win in the long run, even when I go bust. In my games atleast, I offten get called with hands as week as QJs even. The big raise makes it so, that even when I get busted by trips, I still win in the long run. I think, the most wonderfull thing about NL, is that you can raise high enough to destroy your opponets implied odds, and make any call negative equtity. Which is basicly what you did to KK when you made it $30 to so. Notice that your opponet called for $20, with an implied odd expectation of about 10 to 1 for his money if he flops a set. Which is perfect from your perspective, because he only breaks even when he flops a set. But if no A flops, he will probably go all in with you, which will be $170 in reverse implied odds. This seems like great potential for long run expectations on the hand.

Oh, and ofcourse it's allways a goal to get all in with AA pre flop. This is just common sence, from a gambler's perspective.

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