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Old 07-01-2005, 02:41 AM
mike l. mike l. is offline
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Default AKo am i leaking or making good choices?

i have AsKc in the cutoff. 15-30 amazing live game. a passive player raises utg preflop, utg+1 passive player calls, 2 more players call, i call, button who plays every hand calls, sb calls, bb calls. 8 of us.

the flop is Ac8d6d rainbow. checked to utg who bets, utg+1 calls, someone else calls, i call thinking id like to raise on the turn, button now raises, he's regularly aggressive on the flop. blinds fold, others call, i call. 5 of us now.

the turn is 3c. checked to me and i bet, everyone calls. 5 of us still.

the river is 6h. checked to me and i bet.

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Old 07-01-2005, 02:51 AM
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Default Re: AKo am i leaking or making good choices?

I really like what you did here. I would've checked the river way too often.

PS i know there are other preflop, flop, and turn options...
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Old 07-01-2005, 02:57 AM
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Default Re: AKo am i leaking or making good choices?

I would have played it the exact same way.
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Old 07-01-2005, 02:57 AM
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Default Re: AKo am i leaking or making good choices?

I like your logic, but I think the button screws up your plans. After he raises the flop bet, and everybody calls, I would be awefully tempted to 3 bet and trap the peoople that have 2 or 3 outs for as many bets as possible. Any flush draw or straight draw is coming, correctly so, and i'd like to get my overlay now on the people I believe I have dominated.

Maybe I'm leaking.

lf
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Old 07-01-2005, 02:59 AM
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Default Re: AKo am i leaking or making good choices?

actually, I think the flop is the key street, and not raising the key decision....
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Old 07-01-2005, 03:09 AM
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Default Re: AKo am i leaking or making good choices?

hi mike

very good. impressive.
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Old 07-01-2005, 03:23 AM
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Default Re: AKo am i leaking or making good choices?

"actually, I think the flop is the key street, and not raising the key decision...."

could you explain why specifically? i think the idea of a call/3 bet is good and i almost did at the time...
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Old 07-01-2005, 03:30 AM
Clarkmeister Clarkmeister is offline
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Default Re: AKo am i leaking or making good choices?

who cares? the long run is so long none of this crap matters anyways. as long as you scoop the chips on a given hand, that's the only way you know you are cheating the odds. i'd quit.
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Old 07-01-2005, 03:33 AM
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i know youre mocking me but i believe everything you said in your little post so very deeply.
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Old 07-01-2005, 04:09 AM
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Default Re: AKo am i leaking or making good choices?

two questions:
1) why didnt you 3 bet preflop
2) you just called on the flop because you would like to raise a blankish turn. thats good, i like that plan. love it. but then the button raises and everyone just calls on the flop and now you know for sure you wont get to raise the turn because you are going to bet the turn so the button does not get a free card in case that was his plan. so your reason for just calling the flop is ruined because of the button raise so you should 3-bet the flop to get more money in with the likely-best hand since you arent gaining anything tactics wise by not raising the flop. yeah?
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