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03-24-2005, 04:10 AM
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Hopefully not off topic. % to flop
What % to flop do you consider unacceptable?
I just switched from Bodog to Paradise and wow. Bodog was like 65-85%, while Paradise seems to be 38-50%. Just feels like a huge edge was taken from me. Before I could count on huge pots and super loose players. Now it's medium and semi loose. 
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#2
03-24-2005, 04:13 AM
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Re: Hopefully not off topic. % to flop
It depends on the table. The VPIP could be 25 but you could have a couple rocks and a couple terribly loose players. That's not necessarily a bad table, because the rocks are super predictable and the loose players are in all the time, ready for you to isolate them.
When tables get around 20, I consider leaving, though.
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#3
03-24-2005, 04:18 AM
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Re: Hopefully not off topic. % to flop
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It depends on the table. The VPIP could be 25 but you could have a couple rocks and a couple terribly loose players. That's not necessarily a bad table, because the rocks are super predictable and the loose players are in all the time, ready for you to isolate them. When tables get around 20, I consider leaving, though. [/ QUOTE ] I just wasn't expecting 38-50% till 1/2 or higher. Players just seem a lot less willing to pay people off.
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#4
03-24-2005, 04:25 AM
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Re: Hopefully not off topic. % to flop
38% is good. 50% is awesome.
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03-24-2005, 04:40 AM
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Re: Hopefully not off topic. % to flop
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38% is good. 50% is awesome. [/ QUOTE ] how about 85% =p
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#7
03-24-2005, 04:42 AM
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Re: Hopefully not off topic. % to flop
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[ QUOTE ] 38% is good. 50% is awesome. [/ QUOTE ] yeah, were you playing .5/1 over there or lower? [/ QUOTE ] trying to play 2 tables of .25/.50
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#8
03-24-2005, 01:06 PM
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Re: Hopefully not off topic. % to flop
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What % to flop do you consider unacceptable? [/ QUOTE ] None - learn to beat them all [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]. (I'm actually serious...) Paradise is notoriously tighter than the many other sites (I think UB is even tighter). That's just the 'culture' there.
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#9
03-24-2005, 05:52 PM
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Re: Hopefully not off topic. % to flop
At a 65% table, you can make money even if you are blind and deaf.
Most of my playing in the last year has been on UB, Paradise, and Absolute. Worked my way up from 25/50 to 50/1 and 1/2. Anything over 40% seeing the flop is a potential cash cow. A 50% full ring game is like finding a four leaf clover, rare but great luck. Mid-30s is typical for tables at all limits except the nanos at these sites; I will put my name on the waiting list for most tables over 40, or even 37-39 if I recognize a couple of donor's names on the player list. If I am already at a table I'll leave if I ever see it down below 30, or if it stays down in the low 30s for half an hour. It's a COMPLETELY different game than at sites where the flop% is 50 or 60. I've only recently started going anywhere where the games are that loose, and I'm glad I didn't go when I was a beginner... the money is easy but I wouldn't have learned a thing about how to play poker if I'd played there from the start. Getting to learn how to beat a tight table while playing for quarters instead of waiting until you hit $5/10 is the poker equivalent of a full-ride scholarship in college.
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#10
03-24-2005, 06:25 PM
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Re: Hopefully not off topic. % to flop
I don't mean to hijack, per se, but I have a related question. Would you guys rather play at a 40% VPIP table with a couple of TAG's there milking it with you, or at a 30% table that's somewhat tighter and lacking the two aggressive players?
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