50,000 hands @ 3/6(6max) please help! - Page 2

whodaman · #11 08-23-2005, 03:05 AM

you need to loosen up in the bb and you need to steal more on the button.

Moozh · #12 08-23-2005, 03:55 AM

Perhaps just stating the obvious, but loosing up will dramatically help in two regards. First, you'll be adding +EV hands to your arsenal, which should only improve your overall winrate. Second, with the increase of hands, you should really help your Shania, thus increasing the EV of the hands you're already playing.

Guy McSucker · #13 08-23-2005, 04:20 AM

Definitely try to play more hands.

Cartman, it might be hard to judge his postflop play properly since he is so tight: playing that tight will mean very often having an extremely strong hand and it becomes much easier to play postflop. Playing more hands will lead to more close and/or tough decisions and then the real quality of postflop play will come out.

The position stats are strange: only 17.3% VP$IP on the button but 18.5% overall? Play more hands from the button! Lots more. Three-bet cutoff raises with all kinds of playable hands. Steal with more hands. Raise to isolate a single loose limper. And so on.

Guy.

supersub · #14 08-23-2005, 04:24 AM

if your Standard Deviation is 15.5/100 hands your "true" winrate is somewhere between -1.36 and +1.36 Bb/100 (95% confidence interval).web page

This downswing could be statistical. it most likely is.
I cant imagine someone with those stats and a solid postflop play being a loser in the 3/6 games.

You will not be a huge winner with such tight preflop standards, but you will probably not be a losing player either.

Matty · #15 08-23-2005, 04:24 AM

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Can anyone explain his low Went to SD %?

[/ QUOTE ]With 13% PFR, it's going to be obvious what he has pretty often, giving opponents much easier folds.

rooney · #16 08-23-2005, 07:46 AM

I'm a 2.66 BB/100 player at 10/20 sh, VP$IP 29.39 and PF raise 15.24, looks like you raise with most hands I raise with but I probably limp more/call more raises.. this requires you to be extremely aggressive post flop but recognize when your beat, auto rating players is very helpful at this, some players have VP$IP 40% and PF raise 0.1% (don't go bananas with ATs when this guy raise you) and etc.. so I'd suggest playing more hands and knowing your opponent.. GL!

PS! (also read the 6-max guide that was bumbed here a few days ago)

redbeard · #17 08-23-2005, 08:08 PM

it appears the consensus is that i should steal and defend more. about two weeks ago i did this to some extent. here are my current standards let me know if you think this ok or if there needs to be additional changes.
co-- steal with: any ace, any two nine or higher, any two suited eight or higher, any pair fives or better
button-- steal with: any ace, any two eight or better, any two suited seven or higher, any pair fours or better
sb-- complete w: any ace, any two suited, any two ten or better, 22 - 88, three bet w: ATs, AQo, KJs, 99+
bb-- call 1 w: any two suited, any pair, any two ten or better

this has loosened my numbers up some to 20%vpip and 14%pfr for the last two weeks. is this enough or do i need to do more?

deepsquat · #18 08-23-2005, 08:27 PM

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It does look like your a bit too tight and not stealing enough or defending enough.

How many tables are you playing?

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lol, trentcroad. i went to school with that wanker. taking him about 7 years to start getting a kick.

I agree, you need to increase your vpip a couple of points.

baronzeus · #19 08-23-2005, 08:29 PM

you are getting killed in the BB. My number is (0.12) which is > 1.5BB/100 in difference right there.

cartman · #20 08-24-2005, 12:54 AM

The mystery of your low Went to SD% had me completely baffled, so I played 570 hands of 3/6 (6-max) myself today. I played exactly the same way I play at 5/10 where my Went to SD% is around 36%. My standard vpip is about 28 and my pfr around 18. After playing I imported the hands into poker tracker and to my amazement my Went to SD% was 30.5%, EXACTLY the same as yours.

I speculate that there is something inherently different about the way that the opponents overall respond in the 3/6 game versus the 5/10 game. I ran lucky for this extremely small sample size and my Won $ when saw flop was 51%. I think that means that I was taking down a TON of pots uncontested.

<font color="blue"> Does anyone have any possible explanation for this phenomenon or how one's game should adjust to it?</font>

(I suspect one should steal lots and lots!)

Thanks,
Cartman