What I thought was a great flop became a difficult flop decision

[Maulik]

I have no idea how to proceed, I'm new to the table.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG ($148.19)
MP ($93.50)
CO ($77.70)
Button ($49.10)
SB ($85.15)
Hero ($102.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.

Flop: ($8) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, UTG calls $6, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $20</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ???</font>

[PoBoy321]

I generally pop it up to like $65 here with the intention of calling an all-in, but I think that I play these types of big draws too aggressively and it's one of my leaks.

[DoomSlice]

Playing huge draws aggressively is hardly a leak.

[stealyourface]

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top pair and non-nut flush draw?

I don't think this is a huge draw IMO.

If he's got a better flush draw--a push will be giving him (well he'll think that) odds to chase against you and you definitely do not want that to call. He's going to fold a straight draw with that push. I think pushing is -EV in this situation three handed. I'd say fold because something here is beat pretty bad or both (either hand or draw). Calling won't work because everyone (well everyone at these limits) fears flushes. Raising won't work cause a bigger draw might chase with you. If CO has a set--you're dead in this hand.

I think you have to lead this flop. He flopped top pair with a flush draw--it's not like the other guy was automatically going to fire like a nutso after a pathetic min raise.

He hit the flop huge but there's a huge potential (UTG might easily have a straight draw) for you to win not much or lose a lot.

I strongly believe pushing with weak hands like this is a huge leak in a lot of the people's games. I know you want some deception but since when has ANYONE ever paid attention in these limits?

[PoBoy321]

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I think it ceratinly is when you're in a situation where, very often, your 2 pair and trip outs are no good.

[beset7]

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Playing huge draws aggressively is hardly a leak.

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This isn't a huge draw.

[PoBoy321]

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Playing huge draws aggressively is hardly a leak.

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This isn't a huge draw.

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Well, he has 16 outs against an overpair (other than JJ) or bottom 2 pair, 13 outs against TPTK, JJ or 2 pair and still 9 outs with a backdoor FH possible against a set, so I think that he has a lot of equity here, the only question I see is whether or not CO's hand range is restricted only to the hands where our 2 pair and 3 of a kind outs are no good, and whether or not the fact that UTG is coming along could kill some of our outs.

[Isura]

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Playing huge draws aggressively is hardly a leak.

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This isn't a huge draw.

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Yeah. Especially given the action, we can't even expect to have the best draw here that often.

[Andrew Fletcher]

it's not a huge draw. He has TPWK and a potentially beaten flush draw.